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Sunday, June 3, 2012

Online Pension Calculation software for defence pensioners goes online


‘Suvigya’ was is a software developed after great research by the Controller General of Defence Accounts (CGDA) to provide exact calculation of pension for various categories of defence pensioners.

Since the canvas of defence pension is very vast with pension varying with each rank, year of release and trade/category, effectively compiling and effectuating the software was an enormous task for CGDA. To complicate matters, orders issued from time to time had resulted in confusing even the pension disbursing authorities in this regard.

The said system is now online and can be accessed through the following link:


Pensioners / family pensioners have to enter basic details on the website for obtaining the correct amount of pension admissible to them under various orders issued from time to time.

There is however a disclaimer on the website that the amount calculated therein cannot be quoted as authority.

44 comments:

PBOR said...

Its about Officers and "PBOR". as most of the visitors of this blog claim that there is no category like PBOR, can suggest me some other software which can calculate pensions of JCOs and NCOs. Thanks in advance

RH Sgarma said...

This is not working properly. They have not taken the MACP persons who get the grade pay equivlant next rank. For example if a Sgt of Air Force who has put up more than 21 years of service than he is upgraded to PB-2 with a grade pay of 4200. This software is considering all the Sgt in Payband -I only so its not worth for calculating the pensions. One more drawbwck it ask more than 32 years differance in birth date and date of discharge which is not possible to Ac to Sgts/ sep to Hav .

Anonymous said...

That web page flashes an error message, "Please enter your date of retirement after 1953" even when I enter date of retirement post 2k. Good old bharatiya standard of web site management.

AK Anand said...

So if there is a mismatch between Suvigya and the actual pension being drawn, what options are available?

Anonymous said...

There is NO term/word called PBOR any where in ARMY/Navy/Air Force Acts. its illegal and downgrading done to JCOs and equivelent in navy and airforce, deliberately by the babus at MoD and CGDA/PCDA(P). unfortunately till that gets corrected, perforce JCOs/ORs/NCOs have to use PBOR window in suvigya.

Anonymous said...

The software does not provide for Officers born before 1920 i.e. all who are over 92 years of age .In other case the year of birth could be upwards of 1901 or 1910

Anonymous said...

This type of software could be the first stepping stone to having a software ready for use whenever the Rank pay payment matter gets settled. And the arrear payment can be done in a jiffy .

Anonymous said...

sir when HFO are charged the one time collection for ECHS then why they are not given the treatment like officers as same amount are charged from them

Ravi said...

The web page flashes an error message, "Please enter your date of retirement after 1953" even when I enter my date of retirement ie 30 June 1996. It is pity that when Indians are managing the Websites world over our Veterans have to struggle with type of trash.

PBOR said...

@Anonymous 4 jun 3.12 PM : Lakh Taka Sawaal

Sqn Ldr C S Gandhi said...

Sqn Ldr
C S Gandhi
I tried to fill up the required info. However, the rank could not be filled as it does not open. The rest of the info cannot be filled.

Sathye said...

A very good beginning that marks the dawn of transparency in computation and dispersal of defence pensions. This will introduce a paradigm shift in the process which could be innocent of the scheming lower level babus. Like in every newly instituted automated system there could be scope for fine tuning which will happen as it begins operation. Those responsible are eagerly waiting for valuable user feedback from everyone including through this forum. Let us be a little more polite, specific and reasonable in bringing out deficiencies. The futile arguments on the term PBOR by an obsessed user(or decoy) who assumed it as his username are absurdly out of sync with the above post and the discussions. “Personnel Below Officer Rank” is plain English that states what it is. The term “officer” is defined precisely in the Acts of the respective services hence one is amused at what this user is labouring to convey.

Anonymous said...

also check out http://paymatrix.blogspot.com

Capt Sharma said...

For Capt(TS) with 33 years of qualifying service and pre-2006 retirement, The software is giving a pension which is Rs 31576/- and at variance with actually disbursed of Rs26050/-. Any suggestions about correctness and how to go about getting it resolved.

Rajax said...

I am not too sure what this software does which a few formulae couldn't.
For example Pension= 50% X (Basic+ Grade Pay+ MSP). Could any of the enlightened souls pls comment on "Enhanced Rate applicable upto dd-mmm-yyyy or 7 years whichever is earlier" which I presume should be 67 Years of age. The interface is quite poor and a Dt Of Commissioning / Date of Joining column / Reconable date would have been appropriate to calculate Years Months and Days reckonable. Very poor software - Typical of CGDA. The IAF had much better software on its intraweb over 7 years ago.

Anonymous said...

what was the hurry to launch, it crude and with mistakes

Anonymous said...

this provides online pension details & I have not faced any problem while using it.
However ,there is a mismatch in pension amount for Col ( selection )with 32 years of service .As per new software amount shown is Rs 30600/ basic against Rs26050.
Pl guide
Col (retd) Suresh

Anonymous said...

This total thrash software with all kinds of bugs. This actually went online about one year ago. No one is bothered to test or rectify it for one year. What a big shame!

romel said...

when u open the site and enter your particulars the reply is pl fill date of retirement after 01.06.1953.can some rectify the fault so that one can get the right pension.
thanks.
manhanni rs

Penmil said...

Nothing drastically wrong with the software, in general.
The programme runs on Mozilla Firefox browser.
The CGDA website advises so.
Keep your PPO and all corrigendums by your side and then follow the directions as given in the site.
The site gives the Basic Pension after 01 Jun 2006, as the output.
Thereafter one has to deduct the commutation element, if any, and add the DA as per the current dispensation, which 65%, to arrive at the pre taxed pension.
The software uses the same pension tables which we see in PCDA(P), Allahabad web site.What you get is what you have already seen there.
Individual cases, if special, may have to be tackled separately.

JUSTIN said...

this software was introduced quite a time back and since then it is running with same problems as pointed out in various comments.
i feel it is a good step but it should be correceted and updated.

Anonymous said...

For Col(TS) pre-2006 with 33 yrs service this program is showing pension as 31576 as on 1/1/2006 whereas pension being drawn is 26050. Can someone pl guide ?

JUSTIN said...

@sathye the meaning of word pbor is very clear but point is mod has misunderstood this word in the sense "u cannot compare army pbor ranks with say air force.a sepoy of army if donot take promotion can serve upto about 22(appx) yrs now if he takes discharge after 15 yrs he is given 10 yrs weightage. but in air foce it is different there is no set no of yrs of service unlike army.it is initial bond and then extention so if a ac taking discharge after 15 yrs of service he is given 10 yrs weightage and a sgt takes discharge after 15 yrs he is given 6 yrs weightage.this is ridiculous and a injustice to senior rank of sgt" mod has issued weightage circular as per above logic to compensate lower rank of sepoy at the cost of air force sgts?? THIS IS WHERE THE WORD PBOR IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IT SHOULD BE THE RANKS AS OR'S.the serving condition differs for army/nvy/air force lower ranks and before giving any fin.benefit they should know the serving condition first. i hope some of the mod guy is listening me.

Anonymous said...

sir, i wanted to bring to your notice that cdao is deducting taxes on field allowances. i have checked it personally and they are giving reference of post which they had placed on pcdao website

Anonymous said...

No. it is working on mozilla fire fox. Please try it through that software - Vinoth

Tukaram V Manerajurikar said...

Hi PBOR come to chatroll on Soldiers Corner.
TVM

Anonymous said...

dear all
this software is supported by Mozilla firefox. download and try there is no problem at all.above 28yrs of service fr gp capt it shows higher pension than auth by vi pc. does this mean mod has given wrong info or thy have once again cheated us as usual.

gurdeep singh
gp capt (retd )

Doc Rajeeva said...

I think the calculator is still in evolving stages. t did not give me all the details when my request was processed. As in any software this will get matured by trial and error. All sai anbd done a great boon for retirting personnel

DR ( Wg Cdr ) B N Rajeeva

DHANBIR SIDHU said...

it is not giving result with all correct inputs, keep asking to fill in the date of retirement after 1.6.1953. Has It been tested by some responsible person before launching ? Please rectify the fault at the earliest.

Anonymous said...

THIS DOES NOT WORK...THE WEBSITE IS FLASHING AN ERROR MESSAGE "PLEASE ENTER YOUR DATE OF RETIREMENT AFTER 1953

corona8 said...

Well, there we have it, in a nut-shell. A civilian populated behemoth churns out a buggy web-page. And, to think these gentlemen get NFU, retirement at 60 and no field postings for producing shoddy work like this.

Anonymous said...

X Group pay of Rs.1400/- is to be excluded for Hon Commissioned officers for calculating correct pension.

sqnldrfrancis@rediffmail.com said...

Please read the COMMENTS given in the website www.iesm.org in the link RMS. Answer to difficulties is available.

sqn ldr Francis(retd)

Anonymous said...

Does not work on IE8. works only on MOZILA FIREFOX. Old pension amount needs to be fed by us.

sqn ldr Francis

ABHISHEK GOVIL said...

Its a good effort and if the PPO can also be made online as the PPO which CDA gives on retirement gets faded and unreadable after some time.

corona8 said...

@ABHISHEK GOVIL:"...Its a good effort..." There it is! The old, old, self-destructive tendency of people with our service background to be pleased with below par, sub-standard delvery of basics. We eccept and accept standards which even school children would correctly scoff at.

But you have a point, a good one, about the quality of paper on which PPOs are issued. My PPO arrived with most of the text faded, it was probably printed with ink or toner supplied by a pet-contractor of the establishment. The paper is now falling to pieces.

Wasn't my service good enough for the delivery of at least a laminated document? Who's going to teach these self-serving people the value of requisite quality duly deserved by the veterans, for whom these establishments exist, mind you.

How is it a good effort?? Can someone explain the error message seen in the hypothetical example here? https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2nmG6MWJnuzd3J0SmJ4d1pIdlE

Anonymous said...

Can anyone clarify this?
Is there any difference between the pension for a Lt Col (Time Scale)and Lt Col (Select) for pre 2006 retirees.
There seems to be a table which indicates different pension for each depending on number of years of service.
Is this table (which was an annexure to an MoD letter of 2008) still valid?
Or are all Lt Col who retired before 2006 entitled to a minimum pension of 50% of ( 37400+8000+6000).
Can anyone help?

regards

Anonymous said...

I AM GETTING 15YRS COLOUR SERVICE
PENSION AS CH.ARTIFICER.
I ASLO DID 6YRS RESERVE SERVICE FOR
WHICH NO BENEFIT IS GIVEN.

CAN I KNOW MY ENTITLEMENT.

Tukaram V Manerajurikar said...

Sir, Lot of querries of Suvigya software not working? Or not opening up. Here is CGDA's Suvigya sublink which can give exaxt pension of PBORs.

CGDA-Controller General of Defence Accounts
www.cgda.nic.in/Grievances; Suvigya. Click here to know your Pension. DAD Day-2011. DAD Day-2011. Launch of Project Sangam. DAD Day-2011. DAD Day-2011. DAD Day- ...

CGDA-Controller General of Defence Accounts
www.cgda.nic.in/Grievances; Suvigya. Click here to know your Pension. DAD Day-2011. DAD Day-2011. Launch of Project Sangam. DAD Day-2011. DAD Day-2011. DAD Day- ...

Anonymous said...

I have tried your software and found incorrect. I belong to Ex Navy ,retired on 31 Aug. 1988 as Master chief Artificer I ( X group/ A group )afer service of 20+ years of pensionable service. My date of birth is 01 Mar 1952. Your system prompts as:
1.No such rank on retirement day
2.No group
3.Unnecessary prompting of 32 years between dob and retirement day

PN Chaurasia Ex MCEAP I

Milan said...

RESPECTED SIR, FEW DAYS BACK I CHECKED AND IT GAVE ME THE CORRECT PENSION AMOUNT.WHEN I ECOMENDED TO MY FRIEND HE COULD NOT GET HIS PENSION AMOUNT.THEN JUST NOW I CHECKED AND THIS MESSAGE FLASHED"it is not giving result with all correct inputs, keep asking to fill in the date of retirement after 1.6.1953."..WHY SO??
PLEASE DO SOME THING

TNX

MILON

A .S. Panwar said...

Web page is fleshis an error message,"Pl.enter your date of retirement after 1953" Pl rectify.

Lt.Col.Panwar

Anonymous said...

Dear Friends,
this provides online pension details & I have not faced any problem while using it. i got correct result after new changes also (24.9.2012).tried for more than 20 ex-servicemen.

Ex-Hav RD Shisode (BEG)

Anonymous said...

While calculating pension but website showing pop up message that difference between DOB to DOD must be more than 32years, where as I'm 37years diff., pl clarity/rectify.

Tks & regds,
Ex-Sgt Kirit