tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post9018706708121222628..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: 6th Pay Commission further cements the legacy of degradation of Military RanksNavdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-41578903472914424762012-06-12T17:03:08.278+05:302012-06-12T17:03:08.278+05:30The Indian Army, Navy & Air Force cannot be eq...The Indian Army, Navy & Air Force cannot be equated to any other Indian Service like IAS, IPS, BSF, etc. Few reasons ar explained.<br />A. The selection is based on unique requirements to fight the enemy in battle. Not everyone can. Other Services serve in the comfort of peacetime even during war.<br />B. Officers need to take written examinations, SSb and medical. Merit lists entrance is the rule. IAS & other services write juet one entrance test. No IQ or Appitude or Potential leadership test.<br />C. The training and grooming of Adefence personnel is unique. It is structured and sustained. The other services except for the ab initio training there is no note worthy in-house training. <br />D. The nember of defence personnell lost during war bears tesitmony to the very high risk factor that goes with defence forces. But for natural causes almost 100% AIS etc officers retire.<br /><br />All nations respect their Armed Forces as an elite group and do not equate them with Civil services. Ancient India respected and honoured their soldiers. Sadly mordern India neglects their soldiers. <br /><br />Perhaps somday the equations wil change. Till then we must live, speak and act with dignity of a soldier.<br /><br />Cdr. M.A. Raihan. SC. IN Retd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-21060835364407675552012-05-09T18:06:48.518+05:302012-05-09T18:06:48.518+05:30dont take it the wrong way but civil services and ...dont take it the wrong way but civil services and defence cant be compared....<br /> civil services are a bit superior and therefore the different parameters of salary and service conditions...<br />Military is important but it is foolish on their part to think themselves at par with IAS.<br />Military people are getting sufficient compensation, respect and pride and still baulking at the salaries of civil servants(which are maybe marginally higher)..<br />corruption is rampant in army too i guess ...if your chief is to be believed...An honest assesmnetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-62276019933549084172010-01-14T19:47:34.471+05:302010-01-14T19:47:34.471+05:30What is the latest on the reduction of service lim...What is the latest on the reduction of service limit for Time Scale Full Colonel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-1467233908366552402009-11-29T19:20:48.455+05:302009-11-29T19:20:48.455+05:30For degradation of military ranks, they themselves...For degradation of military ranks, they themselves are to blame. For all we know, how during 5th pay commission few vested interest people form Air Force opposed marginal incremental in salary for tech fraternity only to please higher ups.<br />Civilian officers know this and their IQ is better hence they can manipulate us easily. Our up bringing in Fauj and depth of managerial skills needs to be upgraded for better delivery of services to the nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-33344855777690579792009-11-28T10:36:54.080+05:302009-11-28T10:36:54.080+05:30NAVDEEP SIR
ALL YOUR FOLLOWERS MUST VISIT THIS ALS...NAVDEEP SIR<br />ALL YOUR FOLLOWERS MUST VISIT THIS ALSO<br /><br /><br />http://jottingsofmine.blogspot.com/2008/04/think-again.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-88214659641495383772009-11-27T19:52:59.443+05:302009-11-27T19:52:59.443+05:30There is some talk about promotion to Colonel at s...There is some talk about promotion to Colonel at service of 16 Yrs and the first Board to be held for the Rank of Brig.......... Brig (TS) at 23 Yrs of service?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-22377624389983352892009-07-22T06:52:51.719+05:302009-07-22T06:52:51.719+05:30We are greedy and demand more and more. No increas...We are greedy and demand more and more. No increase in pay or pension can meet our basic needs till price rise is controlled. Let authorities and man in power put in efforts to stop price rise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-69630919974828745372009-07-12T17:13:45.586+05:302009-07-12T17:13:45.586+05:30When are we getting our balance 60% of the arears?...When are we getting our balance 60% of the arears? Is the servicerequirement for the time scale Col being reduced?Sunilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01029381076461293606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-17139277771447679892008-10-23T13:37:00.000+05:302008-10-23T13:37:00.000+05:30Had it been the older formula for calculation of p...Had it been the older formula for calculation of pension of PBOR, it would have been a tribute to them for the service they had rendered in harsh conditions in all types of terrains, but bureaucracy has snatched the benefit for a military cadre which has truncated service of 45 to 52 years of age. Since there is no lateral shifting to para military, the bureaucrats did not even think for those PBOR who want to serve longer but not allowed to do so. For themselves, the bureaucrats have increased their basic pension of Rs 13,000 to Rs 40,000 (threefold) whereas it is only fifty percent increase for PBOR. Will someone look into the matter at the earliest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-45264669810257816162008-08-28T21:14:00.000+05:302008-08-28T21:14:00.000+05:30It is a naked truth that Armed Forces are consider...It is a naked truth that Armed Forces are considered as expendadable materials. When we accept insulting order from our friends in civil services imposed through our worthy politicians without any representation from top brass, Armed Forces would continued to be treated as such. It is high time our top brass does some introspection and take up stand for mantaining diginity of services.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-40871969854617988132008-08-21T21:40:00.000+05:302008-08-21T21:40:00.000+05:30If u think the Indian Army can win any war or brin...If u think the Indian Army can win any war or bring laurels to the country under the leadership of senior officers of present day calibre, I think one is sadly mistaken . These days the senior officers are only bothered about their own welfare and their resettlement after retirement as governers of some state or as Chairman/Member of any board like Disaster Management etc. They are not much worried about the welfare of PBOR or OBCs (Offrs below Col rank) of the indian army.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-58062400439162684752008-06-08T15:36:00.000+05:302008-06-08T15:36:00.000+05:30Insightful, but I have a slight variation to the i...Insightful, but I have a slight variation to the idea.<BR/>- at the junior (below Maj Gen) level, the warrant of precedence has no real meaning, hence should not be harped on. Equations at higher levels are clearly defined, and should be insisted, followed.<BR/>- Rks should be de-linked from pay, which should be comensurate to length of service.<BR/><BR/>Detailed article on the issue can be found at<BR/>http://jottingsofmine.blogspot.com/2008/04/think-again.htmlRohit Agarwalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692006733991007499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-53905152616363242192008-04-17T07:33:00.000+05:302008-04-17T07:33:00.000+05:30Yes, the answer would be to base equivalence on th...Yes, the answer would be to base equivalence on the number of years put in. This should continue till the rank of Maj Gen over and above which the current Warrant of Precedence is quite lucidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-54675245202061275232008-04-16T19:02:00.000+05:302008-04-16T19:02:00.000+05:30Civilian officers tend to establish equivalence ba...Civilian officers tend to establish equivalence based on their basic pay. <BR/><BR/>The table of precedence/protocol laid down by the Ministry of Home Affairs is not known to them.<BR/><BR/>The Armed forces should be given a status/precedence based on the number of years of service they have put in, rather than on rank structure, the anomalies arising otherwise have already been brought out very well in the original post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-17967614253544440742008-04-15T21:55:00.000+05:302008-04-15T21:55:00.000+05:30Nice start keep it up.I am told at the time of Ind...Nice start keep it up.<BR/><BR/>I am told at the time of Independance then Army Chief had volantarily scaled down the salaries of Army pers to 1/4th keeping in mind the financial status of country.<BR/><BR/>Eversince then none has even thought of doubling it?Kotshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16525259705175184526noreply@blogger.com