tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post8469157860958189429..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: A Picture and a NationNavdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-51085222010131636022008-11-29T19:05:00.000+05:302008-11-29T19:05:00.000+05:30Why is it that The Police AND BABUS DO NOT HAVE RE...Why is it that The Police AND BABUS DO NOT HAVE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY LIKE THE ARMED FORCES? A CORPS CDR GETS SACKED FOR FAILURE RESULTING OP VIJAY, HOME MINISTER GETS CRITICISED FOR FAILURE DURING DELHI BLASTS BUT NO COMMENTS FROM ANYONE FOR A WRONG REPORT BY THE HOME SECRETARY FOR A WRONG INFO FED TO THE HOME MINISTER THAT A CYLINDER BURST TOOK PLACE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-13749863425991860692008-11-27T19:50:00.000+05:302008-11-27T19:50:00.000+05:30it is a fact that the country is governed/administ...it is a fact that the country is governed/administered by Bureaucrats, and not the Politicians. Politicians come and go.half the time they spend away from their office.none of them is bothered about our Nation.we all have to set these things right.How?..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-982115133379146702008-11-17T10:29:00.000+05:302008-11-17T10:29:00.000+05:30@Maj NavdeepA Great Great Article. An Eye-Opener. ...@Maj Navdeep<BR/>A Great Great Article. An Eye-Opener. Although majority of the commenters seem to stick to the article, but started digressing gradually, but for the larger good. I doubt how many of the commenters are our Civilian friends.<BR/>AmenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-73436148992888451852008-11-15T20:44:00.000+05:302008-11-15T20:44:00.000+05:30Salary & Govt. Concessions for a Member of Par...Salary & Govt. Concessions for a Member of Parliament (MP)<BR/>Monthly Salary : 12,000<BR/>Expense for Constitution per month : 10,000<BR/>Office expenditure per month : 14,000<BR/>Traveling concession (Rs. 8 per km) : 48,000 ( eg.For a visit from<BR/>kerala to Delhi & return: 6000 km)<BR/>Daily DA TA during parliament meets : 500/day<BR/>Charge for 1 class (A/C) in train: Free (For any number of times)<BR/>(All over India )<BR/>Charge for Business Class in flights : Free for 40 trips / year (With wife or P.A.)<BR/>Rent for MP hostel at Delhi : Free<BR/>Electricity costs at home : Free up to 50,000 units<BR/>Local phone call charge : Free up to 1 ,70,000 calls.<BR/>TOTAL expense for a MP [having no qualification] per year : 32,00,000<BR/>[i.e. 2.66 lakh/month]<BR/><BR/>TOTAL expense for 5 years : 1,60,00,000<BR/><BR/>For 534 MPs, the expense for 5 years :<BR/>8,54,40,00,000 (nearly 855 crores)<BR/><BR/>AND THE PRIME MINISTER IS ASKING THE HIGHLY QUALIFIED, OUT PERFORMING<BR/>CEOs TO CUT DOWN THEIR SALARIES?..To top it all NO PB-4 for LT COLs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>This is how all our tax money is been swallowed and price hike on our regular commodities. ......<BR/><BR/>And this is the present condition of our country:<BR/><BR/>855 crores could make their life livable !!<BR/>Think of the great democracy we have........ ......<BR/>PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL WARRIORS ....<BR/>but,<BR/>STILL Proud to be A FAUJIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-56428441764334823042008-11-15T10:54:00.000+05:302008-11-15T10:54:00.000+05:30Dear Sir,It was just by chance that I happened to ...Dear Sir,<BR/>It was just by chance that I happened to start reading "Mangal Pandey - the true story of an Indian Rvolutionary",by Amaresh Mishra,Rupa and Co,Rs 95/-.It gave me a sense of dejavu and sent shivers down my spine.The conditions created today (esp Pg 70-81)are exactly the same as in 1857 and the rot had started sometime in 1824-1825.<BR/>I just hope something similar does'nt happen! I would just request a few poeple to read it and if possible present a copy to the chiefs and to the PM,Def Minister,Foreign Minister and Ms Sushma Nath ( I am quite sure that she can read -before it becomes as big as a writing on the wall).<BR/>Its a small book- about 95 pages ,and somehow it captures the sense of helplessness, anger, frustation and hatred that the officers across the entire spectrum are feeling.I hope they reach a decision soon and the issue doesnt hang fire for long.<BR/><BR/>The armed forces have a duty to protect the nation and to prevent it from disintegration.If the babus are tying it, they should buy it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-3235558529504170792008-11-14T20:24:00.000+05:302008-11-14T20:24:00.000+05:30Dear Navdeep,Have always found this blog releasing...Dear Navdeep,<BR/><BR/>Have always found this blog releasing the latest information on anything "new" that happend on the 6CPC front. <BR/><BR/>Just picked up an unsubstantiated rumour today, that PMO has finally cleared the file (containing) recommendations from the GoM. And, while the proposal related to 'anamoly concerning pension of PBOR' has been accepted, but ALL OTHER anamolies have been rejected.<BR/><BR/>With your 'sources', will it be possible for you to confirm the same.<BR/><BR/>ThxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-59952638039871711682008-11-14T19:00:00.000+05:302008-11-14T19:00:00.000+05:30anonymous November 14, 2008 6:02 PM If it is true,...anonymous November 14, 2008 6:02 PM<BR/> If it is true, then what stops armed forces to collect,verify and publish the dirt on them. I am sure it will be available in plenty and that too the juicy one, including on medea personals. SAM, DAM, DAND, BHED as universally taught as a basic lesson to any ruler and the warrior must be applied. Remmember, war is raged not only against a soldier but against the safety and security of the country by demoralising the armed forces. In the process many disgrunteled souls have been germinated and also the environment of mistrust between the armed forces and the rulers (including bureaucrats, as they are the real ruler, many may disagree) has already been sowed. The future generation will bear the fruits. Either GOD may give them the wisdom to migrate to some other better pastures or give them sufficient strength to suffer the agony patiently.rgkadamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617274093130256970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-51882554289191282692008-11-14T18:36:00.000+05:302008-11-14T18:36:00.000+05:30thanksthanksrgkadamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617274093130256970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-21315049079454100082008-11-14T18:02:00.000+05:302008-11-14T18:02:00.000+05:30Anonymous said... This is all bunkum..as if the Mo...Anonymous said... <BR/><BR/>This is all bunkum..as if the MoD does not know it. Rank pay was Carved out of the Basic Pay as differentiating factor of rank to be added to to the basic pay... There CAT judgements on the subject affirming Rank Pay to be part of Basic Pay..<BR/><BR/>The basic problem of IAS is that if rank Pay is part of the Basic Pay then Director is equivalllant to Lt Col..a thing not palatable to the trecherious status grabber Babus..for that even if they have to screw 17000 Lt Cols and equivallants of the Services, so be it...<BR/><BR/>Thank God, the euphoria of the GoM is cooled down and the Services seem to have taken a meduim / long term persepective on demands rather than except things in hurry.. <BR/><BR/>The bureacracy and the Party also has taken path of Politicisation of the forces, through massive political campaign being conducted via Bombay ATS and paid Media where people from Army and IAF have been found and search for the Neval guy is on...People have been declared guilty by ATS-Media combine and Armed forces maligned..<BR/><BR/>Perhaps this is part of Cryons Contract... and IPS contribution to Political Propaganda...as also Services bashing...<BR/><BR/>Services, therefore,need not expect any thing from the GoM which otherwise would not have needed this much time to decide on issues....<BR/><BR/>This is well known "death by the committee" tactics...<BR/>12:07 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-68072867505991543842008-11-14T18:00:00.000+05:302008-11-14T18:00:00.000+05:30Friday, November 14, 2008Update on the Rank Pay sh...Friday, November 14, 2008<BR/>Update on the Rank Pay showdown<BR/>At the beginning of this month, the three Chiefs met with Expenditure Secretary Sushama Nath to discuss the four core demands of the armed forces. Nath later briefed Pranab Mukherjee on this meeting.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, during the meeting between Nath and the three chiefs, the definition of Rank Pay came up. She indicated that there had been a Cabinet decision in 2000 which stated that Rank Pay did not form part of Basic Pay. In response, the Chiefs told her that if such a decision had indeed been taken, then the affected party, i.e. the services, were neither consulted nor made a party to the decision. And that even if such a decision had been taken, the Services Instructions issued by the MoD were not amended, adding that amendment of Service Instructions was a mandatory requirement, since it involved restructuring of the pay of service officers.<BR/><BR/>The contents of the GoI letter of 2000 (which Nath was referring to) with regard to Rank Pay were scrutinised during the meeting. It emerged that the contents of the letter were "entirely in consonance" with what the Chiefs were saying. The 2000 letter says "Rank Pay will be taken into account for determining their entitlements to such of those financial benefits, concessions, etc, including retirement benefits as are directly related to the basic pay or their pay scales."<BR/><BR/>Will be reporting more about this meeting on my channel shortly. Timings will be posted ahead.<BR/>Posted by Shiv Aroor at 9:14 AM <BR/>Categories: Controversy, Government, Headlines Today, LF Exclusive, Military Pay, MoD, PersonalitiesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-52464739771055630662008-11-14T16:49:00.000+05:302008-11-14T16:49:00.000+05:30What fools to think we are soldiers.Because this P...What fools to think we are soldiers.<BR/>Because this PM and Madame see us as their gladiators.<BR/>When we fight, they take a cue from the public in applauding us. <BR/>When are brothers die (lucky bastards) the high and mighty of this country, are always surprised but marvel at our brothers' incredible stupidity.<BR/>They are needlessly but mortally afraid that their gladiators may break the chains to confront their guily. <BR/>They don't mind throwing scraps and freebies in our cages but don't even begin to believe you can ask for parity in life as in death.<BR/>At least the three, above all gentlemen gladiators, must know we are soldiers! <BR/>Or is it our turn to be surprised at incredible stupidity?!<BR/>I may surprise myself with such abject cynicism but does this country deserve its Forces? We certainly don't deserve this humiliation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-77950726185082411732008-11-14T16:20:00.000+05:302008-11-14T16:20:00.000+05:30I feel utterly helpless like an unguided missile.I feel utterly helpless like an unguided missile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-20902024827125221142008-11-14T15:42:00.000+05:302008-11-14T15:42:00.000+05:30When routine matters like pay and equivalence desp...When routine matters like pay and equivalence despite unambiguous facts are not being attended to by the highest in the Country how does one expect any grace from the political and bureaucratic class in this Country.<BR/>Mera Bharat Mahaan JAI HindAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-20007644932833851072008-11-14T09:37:00.000+05:302008-11-14T09:37:00.000+05:30Has the indian army attached anyone to monitor the...Has the indian army attached anyone to monitor the series of actions (physical and mental)taken by the politically motivated ATS against indicted Lt col Purohit..Whereas investigations must continue , but excesses must be accounted for..what say fellow faujis...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-69120283642486823242008-11-14T00:11:00.000+05:302008-11-14T00:11:00.000+05:30Just Now on TVThere is a complaint that the ATS ha...Just Now on TV<BR/><BR/>There is a complaint that the ATS has subjected Col Purohit to beating and has broken a bone in hand.<BR/><BR/>Come on, he is a recepient of a Wound Medal,( That is seen on his uniform on TV) so he must have served with some distinction.<BR/><BR/>If he is proven guilty, then he deserves the worst, but that should be for later, shouldn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-42106419873994719072008-11-13T22:21:00.000+05:302008-11-13T22:21:00.000+05:30The esprit de corps of the army is already broken....The esprit de corps of the army is already broken. All I see is a bunch of chaps who are acting the part which their rank demands of them. They are not made of the real stuff which is required of them. In the end, theyre only in it for themselves, and there is no spirit of sacrifice. Only mouthing empty inanities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-74828091114511644082008-11-13T22:19:00.000+05:302008-11-13T22:19:00.000+05:30Opportunist.Opportunist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-13003618885248296052008-11-13T21:50:00.000+05:302008-11-13T21:50:00.000+05:30http://ipcommunications.tmcnet.com/news/2008/11/11...http://ipcommunications.tmcnet.com/news/2008/11/11/3779551.htm<BR/><BR/>[November 11, 2008] <BR/><BR/>Former army officer files nomination from Delhi Cantt<BR/><BR/>New Delhi, Nov 11, 2008 (Asia Pulse Data Source via COMTEX) --<BR/>To make the voices of serving and retired armed forces personnel heard, an ex-serviceman today filed his nomination papers from Delhi Cantonment assembly segment where a sizable population of soldiers and their families live.<BR/><BR/>"We have fielded retired Major I S Jakhar from Delhi Cant as we too want to have a major say in welfare policies. Too much injustice has been done to the army on all fronts," retired Major General Satbir Singh said.<BR/><BR/>Jakhar represents Rashtriya Raksha Dal, a national registered party, Singh said and pointed out that the Delhi Cantonment seat has been chosen as a former soldier would consolidate the votes of serving personnel and their families.<BR/><BR/><BR/>There are over 30,000 army votes in the assembly seats which the party hopes to corner in its favour.<BR/><BR/>The party plans to raise issues like demand for immediate constitution of an ex-servicemen commission and rectification of "anomalies" in the Sixth Pay Commission with respect to the armed forces.<BR/><BR/>"We would also ensure that postal ballots cast by the soldiers reach the election office," Singh said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-16572578798668229342008-11-13T21:45:00.000+05:302008-11-13T21:45:00.000+05:30@Anonymous 9.38 pmNot for the country but for thei...@Anonymous 9.38 pm<BR/>Not for the country but for their own sake, all the chiefs should act swiftly. Their reputations is at stake in the eyes of more than 15 lakhs soldiersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-69999606214470691012008-11-13T21:38:00.000+05:302008-11-13T21:38:00.000+05:30our Yes, all the three chiefs should not now keep ...<B><A><I>our Yes, all the three chiefs should not now keep quit. Morale & trust of 1.5 millions people depend on them. Justice delayed is justice denied. The delay is creating lot of tension, stress etc for everyone in the armed forces including the families. It is neither good for the forces nor for the country. So at least for the country sake, chiefs should stick to their guns, avoid any compromise but ensure action at the earliest.</I></A></B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-33576768007234460482008-11-13T21:28:00.000+05:302008-11-13T21:28:00.000+05:30Fully & completely agree with the following co...Fully & completely agree with the following comments posted on your blog:-<BR/><BR/><I>"Well, if theyre reading it, perhaps they would care to let us know what will happen next. Dissatisfaction levels in the armed forces have gone through the roof.<BR/><BR/>Its about time they did something about it. So if youre out there, hear this:<BR/><BR/>1. The degradation of the armed forces has reached an embarassing level. What are you doing about it?<BR/>When will you tell the government that the new pay structure was only provisionally accepted, and you will no longer accept it now?<BR/><BR/>2. The degradation of things which are free, like uniforms, discipline, and standards of behaviour is even more alarming. What are you doing, General Kapoor?<BR/>What answer do you give to a CO who is too scared to give an adverse comment to an officer who is slovenly dressed, lest he complain against him?<BR/><BR/>3. What are you doing in the Purohit case? Why are you not assuring the public, that if guilty, he will be punished, but only IF. Why are you not ensuring that he is treated properly in custody. Want to give a couple of police inspectors the feel of power that comes from thrashing a serving colonel?" </I><BR/><BR/><B><A>our chiefs should do something so as to ensure justice to the forces/soldier they command. Rumours/mis information etc is demoralizing the soldier at fields. Take fast steps lest everybody should repent later on.</A></B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-66351587209094974742008-11-13T21:02:00.000+05:302008-11-13T21:02:00.000+05:30Well, if theyre reading it, perhaps they would car...Well, if theyre reading it, perhaps they would care to let us know what will happen next. Dissatisfaction levels in the armed forces have gone through the roof. <BR/><BR/>Its about time they did something about it. So if youre out there, hear this:<BR/><BR/>1. The degradation of the armed forces has reached an embarassing level. What are you doing about it?<BR/>When will you tell the government that the new pay structure was only provisionally accepted, and you will no longer accept it now?<BR/><BR/>2. The degradation of things which are free, like uniforms, discipline, and standards of behaviour is even more alarming. What are you doing, General Kapoor?<BR/>What answer do you give to a CO who is too scared to give an adverse comment to an officer who is slovenly dressed, lest he complain against him?<BR/><BR/>3. What are you doing in the Purohit case? Why are you not assuring the public, that if guilty, he will be punished, but only IF. Why are you not ensuring that he is treated properly in custody. Want to give a couple of police inspectors the feel of power that comes from thrashing a serving colonel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-65672111309134780002008-11-13T20:48:00.000+05:302008-11-13T20:48:00.000+05:30taxpayer2 well written and in a very few words.taxpayer2 well written and in a very few words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-75979248536187039802008-11-13T20:15:00.000+05:302008-11-13T20:15:00.000+05:30@Anony 7.49 PMDon't worry, it is being read by the...@Anony 7.49 PM<BR/><BR/>Don't worry, it is being read by the Supreme Commander, so don't you worry.<BR/><BR/>Also being read by the COAS, CNS and CAS, believe me since I am serving in the centre of power. This blog happens to be the only genuine voice concerning the Armed Forces with proper balanced views with zero rhetoric and full logic.<BR/>All service hqrs combined cannot match the conciseness and cohesiveness of data available here. Hats off...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-62595388004702827502008-11-13T19:49:00.000+05:302008-11-13T19:49:00.000+05:30How I wish this blog could be read by our Supreme ...How I wish this blog could be read by our Supreme Commander.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com