tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post846526953002790266..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: Simple faujis. They know not what hit them!Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-59799737710309860392014-02-27T13:09:59.803+05:302014-02-27T13:09:59.803+05:30What is the current status of the Medical facility...What is the current status of the Medical facility to SS Officers? I served as an SS Officer from Mar 2003 to Mar 2008 with Indian Army and thereafter i was working in the private Sector.<br />I was diagnosed with Renal Cell Carcinoma(Type of Kidney Cancer) in Nov 2010.I lost my job during the treatment and all my saving and assets have gone in the treatment( 15-20 Lakhs have been spent on the treatment) and only around 2 Lakhs was reimbursed by the Private Sector organisation for which i was working.As on date i have no reserves and the disease has further progressed. I got hold of the AGs Branch latest brochure and i am sending an application for the medical distress grant.Is there any other option available? The cost of treatment currently is 2lakhs plus per month and the part of medicines is being sponsored by a Mumbai based NGO.If anyone can suggest any current update for financial grant or extension of medical facilities.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06536088443436701836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-36181962643799457322013-09-24T23:18:50.445+05:302013-09-24T23:18:50.445+05:30hi navdeep, kindly suggest and advice as to what c...hi navdeep, kindly suggest and advice as to what can be done by the Fauji in this regard. either v hav mellowed down under the burdened responsibilities or hav forgotten how to claim for out\r rights. besides its quoted that v r governed by thousands of rules and regulations to keep our voice in tabs.....still its a good effort . keep it up<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01365590476486776344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-50563483478119782312013-09-13T23:34:46.297+05:302013-09-13T23:34:46.297+05:30Dear navdeep.
Gone are the days when army had any ...Dear navdeep.<br />Gone are the days when army had any izzat. It had gone with britishers. The indep sucessive govts of india was scared of fauj and ensured that incompetent people are kept at the helm of affairs so that fauj can be MANAGED through them.<br />And why to curse outsiders when we ourselves are busy in crab culture ensuring our own decline...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-13465308226945290232013-09-08T22:16:06.596+05:302013-09-08T22:16:06.596+05:30Dear all, it was indeed a great write up by Maj Na...Dear all, it was indeed a great write up by Maj Navdeep. Sir, i have a small doubt as regards NFU. Pse pardon me if i'm wrong. As far as my limited knowledge goes as per NFU implemented for civilian officers an officer is considered for the next rank non functionally, if he considered for promotion to that particular rank and could not be promoted to that rank because of limited vacancy. Only then that officer is given perks of that rank non-functionally (2 yrs after IAS batch considered for that rank). therefore even if fauji's are given NFU how can a Col(TS) or Col(S) or Brig can get a pay of Lt Gen non functionally if they are not even considered for that rank. Therefore the only officer who will get the pay of Lt gen non functionally is the Maj Gen's who are considered for Lt Gen rank but could not get promoted because of limited vacancy. since most of the civilian officers get to the rank of Jt Sec's the NFU may benefit them. once again pse correct me if i'm wrong.Therefore I feel DACP kind may better suit all fauji's where we have pyramidal promotional structure. God Bless All.<br />Regards<br />RameshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-49981149362086892002013-09-05T23:01:01.737+05:302013-09-05T23:01:01.737+05:30Fauji officers are second grade officers they must...Fauji officers are second grade officers they must realise this and that is how they are being treated by the country. Why so much of ruckus on this and more over why did all they joined fauz and they are free to leave so let them resign at same time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-62768185870061353672013-09-04T22:31:54.628+05:302013-09-04T22:31:54.628+05:30In the meantime, another legal cause of veterans s...In the meantime, another legal cause of veterans seeks <a href="https://twitter.com/spanner5oh/status/375296893695176705" rel="nofollow"><b>support and advice</b></a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-33881481920816752642013-09-04T06:58:45.283+05:302013-09-04T06:58:45.283+05:30i WONDER WHY those HOLDING senior and responsible...i WONDER WHY those HOLDING senior and responsible position DO NOT TAKE NOTE of the FACTS and take things for LOGICAL CONCLUSION<br />What holds them when they know they have already achieved all they could and now if they SERVE whom they COMMAND they will get BLESSINGS and GOOD WISHES of MILLIONS and if they still SERVE the masters ALL THEY WILL GET WILL BE SOME CHEAP PRIVILEDGES they really can LIVE WITHOUTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-85561861539759434022013-09-02T00:03:08.185+05:302013-09-02T00:03:08.185+05:30The Roti example.
How very true to the current tr...The Roti example.<br /><br />How very true to the current trend.<br /><br />So if it gets extrapolated to the next pay commission (letters for inputs are doing round currently), it will be just a matter of time that the 'incentives' will be too much for youngsters to join.<br /><br />And then we shall have an Army with only the 'elder brothers' and NO younger brothers.<br /><br />May the Lord give some wisdom to the ones who have lost it (or were born without it) !!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-90483251102891825602013-09-01T13:30:05.723+05:302013-09-01T13:30:05.723+05:30@Vikram Karve:"..excluding Time Scale Command...@Vikram Karve:<i>"..excluding Time Scale Commanders and not promoting them to Captain after 26 years.."</i>;<br /><br />Do you mean to tell us there is no Capt (TS) rank in IN?<br />To the best of my knowledge, there's no select or TS differentiation for Cdr rank.<br /><br />What are we talking about, here?<br /><br />Of course, there's a difference when it comes to 'promotion' to Cdre in IN. That's more of an empanelment than <i>promotion</i>, or, at least, it used to be. Dhoophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461434428038701574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-86385600253638580892013-09-01T12:06:24.347+05:302013-09-01T12:06:24.347+05:30Armed forces come under Defence Ministry, Central ...Armed forces come under Defence Ministry, Central police forces like BSF, ITBP etc. come under the Home ministry but in general under which ministry do the IAS/ IPS and there lower functionaries come under. The problem lies in the IAS actually being part of all the ministries and thus making decision only for there benefit. Armed forces is a specialist force thus we need to be separate from the babus and should not try to equate ourself to them which gives them a chance to marginalize. The answer lies in a separate pay scale as we do not conform to the one on one rank/ appointment structure of IAS/ IPS. Administration and internal security in the function of IAS/IPS but when armed forces are called in any place the authority needs to shift to the senior-most officer incharge irrespective of his rank and no parallels with IAS/ IPS should be drawn. I think the problem will continue if we try to draw parity with the civilian counterparts as actually no parity should exist.rajathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03643152573637860964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-36534272351549990602013-09-01T08:50:05.812+05:302013-09-01T08:50:05.812+05:30Two things
1. The Briefcase Episode- Recently, i...Two things<br /><br />1. <b>The Briefcase Episode</b>- Recently, instructions were received that all officers posted in MoD (incl AFHQ) are permitted to purchase a briefcase whose cost shall be borne by Govt. The permissible cost is based on the respective officer's pay grade.<br /><br />The procedure to be followed is that the officer may procure a briefcase/ ladies handbag of his/ her choice, whereupon the expense shall be reimbursed on presentation of bill to respective force HQs<br /><br />The scales are laid as follows-<br />Upto Lt Col-Rs 3000/-<br />Dy Director (GP 6600/-) Rs 3000/-<br />Col and Brig - Rs 4000/-<br />Jt Dir (GP-7600/-) and Dir - Rs 4000/-<br />Maj Gen - Rs 5000/-<br />Principal Director- Rs 5000/-<br /><br />The letter with detailed procedure is signed by a star ranked officer.<br /><br /><br />2. <b>Life on Charity</b> Taj Palace Hotel, New Delhi holds an annual Charity Ball. The advert states- <br />“the ultimate protectors of freedom and liberty are the brave men and women in our armed forces.” They are the reason for the fundraising event, The Taj Black Tie Charity Ball, Taj Palace New Delhi on 31st August 2013. <br /><br />So get used to life on Charity of the private sector as well as government.<br /><br />One more Thing- When Navdeep started almost 7 years ago. I thought he is just showing the mirror and both the govt and the armed bureaucracy shall be made to follow their 'Dharma' or righteous path.<br /><br />In due course, the obduracy of the civilian bureaucracy and spineless-ness of the armed forces 'leaders' (for want of a better word), has led to a situation when revealing articles such as these get about 50 or so responses and then deafening silence.<br /><br />Dear friends, nothing is moving in Delhi. Expectation for a hand in some future gravy train is not only applicable to the retiring service chiefs. Our cutting edge colonels and Brigs wag on with equally hopeful eyes.IndianACEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14042998466296508087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-28134428717059059732013-08-31T15:56:47.271+05:302013-08-31T15:56:47.271+05:30The file containing report and recommendations of ...The file containing report and recommendations of Mr AK Seth, Cabinet Secy was sent by PMO to MoD in Aug 2012 only for in principle approval on issues related to NFU, wrong grade pay fixation, HAG, etc before these could be placed before and approved by the cabinet committee. This high powered committee was specially constituted by the PM to fast track pending anomalies of 6th CPC(in r/o defence personnel). It is irony that this file is gathering dusty comments there since last one year. It is high time defence forces are placed under Ministry of Labour since MoD whose sole reason for existence is defence forces, is blatantly insensitive to genuine issues of its own people. Manuureet Singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-49771804384972833622013-08-30T23:31:52.932+05:302013-08-30T23:31:52.932+05:30It is better to have babus as generals so that our...It is better to have babus as generals so that our woes can be taken straight to decision making bretherns and get it in our favour. presently these generals can neither stand for their juniors nor can defend their diginity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-36855259528558569232013-08-30T15:31:16.713+05:302013-08-30T15:31:16.713+05:30Roti example is great.But applicable every where. ...Roti example is great.But applicable every where. In recent psst a retired Air chief managed an extra roti from elsewhere.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-41726404991390418502013-08-30T12:36:50.088+05:302013-08-30T12:36:50.088+05:30If the trend of downgrading defense services conti...If the trend of downgrading defense services continues,a time will come that nobody will take this service as their career by choice.Its high time for our top generals to show a real concern for boosting morale of this service else this country will not find any soldier to fight for national security.The country is already in big trouble,at least let its last hope remain ALIVE. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-83503289432603559832013-08-29T15:58:41.574+05:302013-08-29T15:58:41.574+05:30At least I know that our own higher ranks had hit ...At least I know that our own higher ranks had hit us very badly. Even when these 'babus' are willing to listen, our Generals think themselves as the 'one and only indispensable' and they do not tolerate anyone equating with themselves. This is what they did with the DACP to AMC officers. Realising their weaknesses the 'babus' are exploiting. The generals cry foul only when they were hit hard. Prasadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-81401198194541086262013-08-29T01:03:02.137+05:302013-08-29T01:03:02.137+05:30It is horrible to say the least and actually makes...It is horrible to say the least and actually makes one feel helpless after reading all this.PRONOB ROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12335296052977630022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-10454311191577967362013-08-28T19:47:22.202+05:302013-08-28T19:47:22.202+05:30We have lost 3 officers & 15 sailors in mumbai...We have lost 3 officers & 15 sailors in mumbai INS tragedy.....We can imagine how they felt at last moments of their life, since their bodies were severely disfigured & not identifiable due to severe burns...For mere suspension of one IAS officer, more & more sympathy is made including by those who are in Govt.... Here, mere suspension of one junior IAS officer & not a dismissal or no danger to life..But we have lost 3 SIMILAR RANKING OFFICERS (Lt COMMANDERS ) & their bodies were disfigured....<br />It is not easy going for indian military officers even on death...But status of these officers are systamatically downgraded & humiliated...If naval officers are going for sailing,they have to sail for weeks together leaving their families...At the time of sailing, they have to be vigilant,24 hrs a day for weeks together...In civilian life after duty,thay can go home& enjoy with their family...Sometimes,naval officers have to earn the displeasure of junior sailors, while extracting work or maintaining discipline....But such officers have to live with such sailors in the ships for weeks together & take food cooked by them....this is the case for army officers also....But ias/ips officers after duty, they go home & live safely with their family...Hence non granting of NFU citing MSP is UNJUSTIFIED....We have to takeup the case legally.. NAGIREDDYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12432779494798629953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-70319647531126928452013-08-28T17:20:54.910+05:302013-08-28T17:20:54.910+05:30A very insightful post.
Like you have said, it is ...A very insightful post.<br />Like you have said, it is the senior defence officers who are responsible for the pathetic state of affairs.<br />Senior Officers want all the benefits of their civilian counterparts, but are reluctant to enhance the career prospects of their own junior officers and men. <br />The Chiefs and Senior Officers need to answer these questions:<br />1. Why was the integrated running pay scale upto rank of Brigadier introduced by 4th pay commission scrapped? In fact, this concept of running pay band should have been extended upto General. This would have automatically prevented the One Rank One Pension (OROP) issue as pension would be linked with years of service and not rank.<br />2. Why was the AVS Cadre Review (2006) not fully implemented in the Navy by excluding Time Scale Commanders and not promoting them to Captain after 26 years like was done in the Army and IAF ? Why different yardsticks for different services? Is this jointmanship and unity?<br />3. Why is the retirement age not being increased to 60 years for all officers and men on par with civil services, police and paramilitary forces? If a paramilitary trooper can serve till 60 then why not a soldier?<br />Is any Chief or Senior Officer willing to stick his neck out for the welfare of his officers and men and resign on matters of principle if he feels that injustice is being done to his service?<br />As far as the defence services are concerned, both the problems and the solutions lie within - so let us stop blaming the babus for everything!<br />Regards<br />Vikram Karve<br /><a href="http://karvediat.blogspot.in/" rel="nofollow">Vikram Karve</a><br /><br /><a href="http://karvediat.blogspot.in/" rel="nofollow">Academic and Creative Writing Journal Vikram Karve</a><br />Vikram Waman Karvehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00290102473130246523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-65049213689606776132013-08-27T22:15:11.256+05:302013-08-27T22:15:11.256+05:30Lt Col (Retd) MK Nagar
@ V Maharajan August 26, 20...Lt Col (Retd) MK Nagar<br />@ V Maharajan August 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM<br /> I would like to advice you to have<br />correct answer to your query you should approach/address to :-<br /> (a) Army Postal Dte New Delhi<br /> (b) Your APS Record Office Kamptee<br /> (c) Refer to AOL (All Office Letters<br /> (d) Refer to ROI of APS Record Office Kamptee.<br />August 27, 2013Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07642784830362718133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-4011094965192351472013-08-27T19:50:38.702+05:302013-08-27T19:50:38.702+05:30Dear Navdeep,
Thanks for the nice write up on how ...Dear Navdeep,<br />Thanks for the nice write up on how faujis have been fooled. But we knew this all along. We are simple folks, not simpletons. It doesn't take a Newton to know that we are being short changed. As it goes in Hindi, 100 sunaar ki, ek luhar ki. That day will come sooner than later.<br />Secondly, could you please keep the narrative short. Your style compares with that of Arun Shourie who has written excellent books but nobody can read them till the end because of their length. This style must be suitable in courts etc, but we ain't lawyers or judges. So, please make your point in fewer words. Atleast I lose interest halfway through. A meandering argument doesnt suit a common man's temperament.<br />Keep up the good work and be short.ninihalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10944733704774747465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-59828765962855221822013-08-27T16:39:04.596+05:302013-08-27T16:39:04.596+05:30Time to "HALLA BOL"Time to "HALLA BOL"Badalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17030787739301192762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-38508672361266659222013-08-27T04:36:17.517+05:302013-08-27T04:36:17.517+05:30Bang on target as usual NavdeepBang on target as usual NavdeepAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-82839079219278029042013-08-26T20:51:14.821+05:302013-08-26T20:51:14.821+05:30Respected Sir,
Requesting for information regardi...Respected Sir,<br /><br />Requesting for information regarding of Non-Regular persons deputated to Army Postal Service from Civil Postal Department<br /><br />I am requesting to you that the follwing information denied by my unit. I am serving in Army Postal Service as a Non-Regular Person (I deputated from Civil Department of Posts). I would not be rejoined to my parent office of department of Posts. Whereas, which type of pension will be allowed to Non regular person of APS.<br /><br />Non-Regular Persons are working in all Ranks like Sep, Nk, Warrant Officer, Nb Sub, Sub & etc. The undermentioned requsite may please inform to me for my life and carrier. <br /><br />1. How many years after Non-Regular Persons will be allowed to Pension when they are directly retirement from Army Postal Service. If minimum service and full service may please be intimated to us.<br /><br />2. How may years after LMC Board Pension will be allowed to Non Regular Person of Army Postal Service.<br /><br />Again I wish to say that Non Regular person are working in APS in all Ranks like above said.<br /><br />I am requesting you may please be informed to us for my rights and information.<br /><br />Yours faithfully,<br />Thanking You Sir!<br />XXXXX<br />V MAHARAJAN<br />V MAHARAJANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-39255669491711714992013-08-26T18:26:46.012+05:302013-08-26T18:26:46.012+05:30When one finds even the Judgment of Hon Supreme C...When one finds even the Judgment of Hon Supreme Court itself is subjected to doctoring and further “adjudication” by setups like CGDA where else can you turn to in our constitutional edifice? There is a dangerous trend of account/audit agencies self- assuming authority to formulate rules and procedures as they please, accord every approvals and sanctions including pay to the services and thereafter themselves sweetly audit their own handiworks! The services have been pushed into constitutional and legal limbo with nowhere to go!Sathyenoreply@blogger.com