tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post7591921256724970793..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: Why can’t we ?Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-31148783086449817752016-07-10T14:12:59.884+05:302016-07-10T14:12:59.884+05:30Dear Sir, saddest part is that people are not awar...Dear Sir, saddest part is that people are not aware of policy while entering in military.Eg Now IAF does not offers PC to flying branch officers and moreover they are for 14 fix ( no 10+4) . Although most of SSC are engineers they are great pilot and most suited for modern aircraft technology.Still no option at all for them inspite of being in operational branch of IAF.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-12065248061259622722015-08-27T12:57:28.929+05:302015-08-27T12:57:28.929+05:30I gave my comments on this post earlier this week ...I gave my comments on this post earlier this week regarding vagaries experienced by SSCOs, however it seems the highly respected owner of this blog chose not to reflect reality of aggrieved sscos with respect to disparity and differential treatment meted out to sscos for reasons best known to him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-83314200380658028742015-08-26T12:56:04.870+05:302015-08-26T12:56:04.870+05:30The reality of SSCOs is that they are not entitled...The reality of SSCOs is that they are not entitled to any of the following items :-<br />1. Use of rank / issue of parchment certificate of commission by President.<br />2. ECHS<br />3. Eligibility for wards for admission to AWES run institutes(if served less than 10 years).<br />4.Pro-rata Pension<br />5. Lateral Resettlement options / reservations in Govt service with seniority protection.<br />6.Membership to few Army Clubs (e.g. Army Golf Club, RSI Hyderabad etc)<br /><br />Additionally, NO ESM organisation is bothered for concerns of SSCOs including IESM.<br /><br />Ironically, the senior military leadership seem to have forgotten the famous words incribed in at IMA commonly referred as Chetwode credo -" The honour welfare and comfort of the men you command comes next"...<br /><br />As a former SSCO I would like to ask where is our honour, welfare and comfort ?? Is someone listening ???<br />Who is responsible for this state of affairs for a veteran community that remains neglected despite a possibility of OROP coming through for all others.Where does the buck stop to ensure inclusion of released SSCOs as respectable veterans with equitable benefits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-84844460364044744282014-01-24T00:09:59.176+05:302014-01-24T00:09:59.176+05:30There is a SPECIAL PROVISION OF RELEASE for the SS...There is a SPECIAL PROVISION OF RELEASE for the SSCOs who are under the 10 years bond(04588/MS Policy,dt 22 Feb 2007).Does that entitles them to any ex servicemen benefits on gettng released after completion of 5 years.Manjinder Singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-23015069245555870002013-11-21T13:45:42.576+05:302013-11-21T13:45:42.576+05:30Dthear sir I am an SS officer (& a civil Egin...Dthear sir I am an SS officer (& a civil Egineering graduate) who served for ten years how can I be in touch as to what all is happening regarding benifits of Ex servicemen,my mail Id is captanil04@gmail.com.<br />with regards<br />capy anil sharma.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07039453874396527530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-16037218943461001802013-10-13T12:17:11.103+05:302013-10-13T12:17:11.103+05:30I understand Indian Army has recommended to Govt o...I understand Indian Army has recommended to Govt of India in June 2013 to grant ECHS benefit,extra terminal salary and special study leave to SSCOs to make the cadre more attractive to the youth? Can someone throw more light on the matter?<br /><br />Thanks<br />Sasidharansasidharannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-5672852244270959602013-10-12T17:26:29.677+05:302013-10-12T17:26:29.677+05:30Respected sir ,
I am a daughter of an retired arm...Respected sir ,<br /><br />I am a daughter of an retired army ex-serviceman. my mom is suffering from HCV and we went to polyclinic hospital for treatment ,they referred my mother to " mann medicity hospital Jalandhar " and there after diagnosis they send my mother for leave and said we will call you after 10 day days but now 2 months are gone . but they are not providing treatmentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-2650349151617151582013-09-04T21:39:17.923+05:302013-09-04T21:39:17.923+05:30Hello Sir,
I am a IT professional having 5 yrs of...Hello Sir,<br /><br />I am a IT professional having 5 yrs of service in IT/Corporate. I am 27 yrs of age and hail from a fauji family. <br />What in your opinion would be a better deal SSC or TA in order to get the OGs and at least continue the tradition of being in OGs and serving the fauj. <br /><br />Thanks,<br />B Singhdaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270373986794726399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-42805280410028363262013-08-23T01:58:30.799+05:302013-08-23T01:58:30.799+05:30I, am a Sysco and have served in infantry for 5 ye...I, am a Sysco and have served in infantry for 5 years.majority of my tenure has been in the field and ci. It is very unfortunate that the government is totally neglecting the highly skilled labour force, being released from the defence services at a young age. The reservations for exservicemen in particular Ssco is totally farce and a big sham. On ground reality is totally opposite. This can clearly be seen from the latest ips examination conducted for army officers. Majority of the Ssco officers did not even qualify for appearing in the examinations. Incase a Ssco officer leaves army and intends to join paramilitary forces, he does not get enough chances because of the age block. Also he has to appear for a written competitive exam. Now is it possible for him to prepare for a written examination at that age,with family responsibilities and does he need to appear for the examination like a fresher despite him being even better trained and experienced then any other uniformed profession? The government has totally neglected the interests of the Ssco officers. The government needs to realise the potential of these highly trained officers. The total quantity of Ssco officers both serving and released is in lakshmanas and together we are capable of making and breaking governments by practicing our voting rights. At least minimum they can do is providing us echo facility. The senior buckle heads located at the mod fail to recognise that the echo is already undergoing huge lossess, by including Ssco in it, will gather huge funds for the echs n the future will be brighter for even permanent commissioned officers.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16194809888869981493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-78840483378834908612013-02-12T10:41:24.747+05:302013-02-12T10:41:24.747+05:30respected sir
I got selected in SSC in army denta...respected sir<br /><br />I got selected in SSC in army dental corps, i have so many doubts regarding SSC like<br />1) is this is possible to leave with in 5 yr tenure after joining.<br />2) if i got selected in indian civil services during this period, will they allow me to join ?<br />3) is there any codefied rules regarding resignation mention in army rule book and where would i find that rules.<br /><br />sir i talked to so many people but answers are not clear. would you please guide me regarding these doubts.<br />it will be a great help<br /><br />thank you<br />with regardsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17339965187333537474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-91707866833017348182012-12-07T19:51:04.675+05:302012-12-07T19:51:04.675+05:30I’m a BE graduate decided to join SSC in army, but...I’m a BE graduate decided to join SSC in army, but after reading this blog, I doubt wat’s my life after serving 14-years as an SSC officer with no benefits.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17193193921093022948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-15211800851249241332012-11-13T19:19:20.855+05:302012-11-13T19:19:20.855+05:30Sir,
Is it possible to resign during the first 5 y...Sir,<br />Is it possible to resign during the first 5 year period? Or to to quit during the training period?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-80931840450574365642012-06-25T16:50:03.130+05:302012-06-25T16:50:03.130+05:30Dear Sir,
I take this opportunity to invite your ...Dear Sir,<br /><br />I take this opportunity to invite your attention to this burning issue concerning to all of us. I would like to draw your attention towards the reservation policies of the central govt. As per the current policies we are entitled to get reservation only in Grp C and D posts and not in Grp A and B posts. I think now is the high time to seek a change in these archaic rules. Gone are the days when a Jawan used to join defence forces after passing class 10th and used to leave the service with the same qualification and was awarded the Graduation equal certificate by the concerned records office. <br /><br />But now the times are changing so many of our counterparts have acquired the higher degrees which make them eligible to apply for the Grp A and B posts in central govt. I give my own example I have completed my MA in 4 subjects, B.Ed, MBA (HR) and 02 PG diplomas. By virtue of scoring more than 55 % marks in my MA, I am eligible to apply for so many posts being advertised by UPSC concerning to Group A and B but see the irony I will not stand to get any reservation benefit if at all I wishes to apply for these posts. They only consider us fit for Group C and D posts even if we are highly qualified also. I think we should get together and fight for our right and raise this burning issue at the highest possible level so that in future our brethren leaving the services are considered for the higher posts. Please give this letter a wide publicity through this wonderful medium.ek musafirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06476757260910654101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-79584617519646998252012-05-29T18:28:07.181+05:302012-05-29T18:28:07.181+05:30Sir,
I am a newly commission officer. I dotn wan...Sir,<br /><br /><br />I am a newly commission officer. I dotn want to extent my service beyond 5 years in Army. UNDER THE NEW RULE ON ssco, can I resign after 5 years? Do I need to pay any money to the government if I have to leave after 5 years.?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-85499864836634459832012-02-16T20:58:03.441+05:302012-02-16T20:58:03.441+05:30Maj Navdeep
Is it fruitful to file a case, agains...Maj Navdeep<br /><br />Is it fruitful to file a case, against the issue of granting pension to ssc officers getting released after completion of 10 years of service in comparison to the provision for pension in civil<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />-Alpha OscarAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-74408723877318579002012-02-14T00:02:39.137+05:302012-02-14T00:02:39.137+05:30Dear Sir / Madam,
The authorities must urgently re...Dear Sir / Madam,<br />The authorities must urgently review the pathetic condition of hapless SSC officers. The cadre of SSC is akin to slavery reminiscent of draconian era. Now we can't even blame it on colonial rules as SSC cadre is a class of "slaves" in the worlds largest democracy. The secret policy of "Use & Throw" needs humanitarian revision. SSC offrs are left to square one after extracting 14 years of their prime time. No god-father, no ones baby. No pension, no ECHS facility. Same charter of duty & same exposure to risk factors. By the time a SSC offr quits army, his counterparts have not even made up their minds on what to be done in life. These brave men who joined the elite service needs recognition of their 14 years grueling service to nation. The country should atleast provide them with pro-rata post release facilities as applicable to civilians of central govt after completion of only 10 years of service. The slogan: Do You Have It In You ??? would be better relished by brave SSC cadre as they joined the Army because they really have it in them!!!! No malice intended to any one. Just hope that this piece is read in the correct perspective and something good happens for the SSC offrs. Jai Hind.Ardhendu Palnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-36261103836675246912011-11-22T17:00:46.471+05:302011-11-22T17:00:46.471+05:30Well, this is what exactly happens with the PBOR t...Well, this is what exactly happens with the PBOR too. They are made again to stand at the FAR END OF THE QUEUE when it comes to a job in the Civil.. any comments?<br /><br />Bluemistbluemisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794010082078810046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-75124029285118488392011-11-17T17:52:10.861+05:302011-11-17T17:52:10.861+05:30Your observation is absolutely correct, Maj. Navde...Your observation is absolutely correct, Maj. Navdeep. We are mostly attracting mediocre peole into SS these days.rooyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185541926460002063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-66391195430142463222011-11-16T11:54:00.670+05:302011-11-16T11:54:00.670+05:30Dear Maj Navdeep,
On this issue of MH facilities...Dear Maj Navdeep,<br /><br /><br />On this issue of MH facilities for ECOs/SSCOs, I fail to understand why govt and AMC are fighting it through SLPs.<br /><br /><br />Last ECO batch to be released was sometime around 1972 (about 40 years back). All these ECOs will be more than 72 years of age. I don't think more than 1500 ECOs would be alive. <br /><br /><br />Similarly considering the average intake of 250 SSC officers every year and around 50% of officers being absorbed in permanent commission, total SSC Officers released in the last 40 years would be around 5000.<br /><br /><br />If we deduct another 25% of SSCOs joining govt/PSUs where CGHS and other facilities exist,SSCOs interested for MH or ECHS would be around 4000.<br /><br /><br />And considering the percentage of ECOs/SSCOs who will actually fall sick and go to MH for treatment will be negligible. If AMC claims of looking after lakhs of exservicemen, is it a big extra burden on them? <br /><br /><br />At one end we crib that there is shortage of officers in the armed forces and at other end this<br />treatment will only result in negative publicity. It is not in the interest of either the army, MOD or in national interest to deny and contest the MH and ECHS facilities for ECOs/SSCOs.<br /><br /><br />Regardskuldeephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01255691794315860250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-28145985259524665112011-11-16T10:19:14.588+05:302011-11-16T10:19:14.588+05:30Giving medicare under ECHS only to pensioners is b...Giving medicare under ECHS only to pensioners is blatantly arbitrary and discriminatory. Because the condition/word pension has been removed from the regulations under which medicare is provided to ESM(pensioner-nonpensioner as one class )since 1996. Till date that regulation is inforce. Therefore again without authority of law/regulation, giving ECHS to only pensioner ESM is arbitrary and discriminatory and fraud. One can not create a class with in a class (ESM). This has been done by AGs branch ( our own fauji babus). This fraudalent action/omission/commission is punishable under army act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-37118395470845995702011-11-14T17:36:29.364+05:302011-11-14T17:36:29.364+05:30...Further in addition
http://www.gconnect.in/6cp......Further in addition<br /><br />http://www.gconnect.in/6cpc-matters/principal-bench-of-cats-judgement-in-favour-of-pre-2006-pensioners.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-91685596970553296412011-11-14T17:05:00.359+05:302011-11-14T17:05:00.359+05:30a ready reckoner on iaf website especially for pre...a ready reckoner on iaf website especially for pre 2006 pensioners.<br />may be of some help. <br /><br />http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/dppr/download/CHECK%20YOUR%20PENSION.pdf<br /><br />regardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-51342869108567025232011-11-14T10:22:24.652+05:302011-11-14T10:22:24.652+05:30Navdeep,
At last a step in right direction from yo...Navdeep,<br />At last a step in right direction from you. ssc are second to none .<br />many may have not given there option for permanent commission, not all ssc officers want pc. As you said it yes an ssc officer is at disadvantages position,as he as to start afresh after he leaves . It is the creation of our own brother officers. MOD should , have contested and a made party itself in SUPREME COURT , THEN SITUATION WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.Navdeep you are a lawayer can you browse APEX COURT JUDGEMENT ON THIS ISSUE , please take up the issue with mod to file a review petition.<br />ssc officers are not entitled for pension, and echs also. SERVICES wants the profile of officers should be young, but does not want to extend benefits to ssc officers.<br />Mod has to take necessary corrective steps to set right the anomaly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-49417071012517006372011-11-13T18:11:48.077+05:302011-11-13T18:11:48.077+05:30@Anonymous very well said
None of the Sr officers ...@Anonymous very well said<br />None of the Sr officers have given a commets here.Since it does not matter to them they are silent .......<br />Before we look outwards for anything , we need to introspect , Is our own organisation is giving SS officers their dueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-27288412386608298102011-11-13T10:37:37.979+05:302011-11-13T10:37:37.979+05:30The point about the lack of engagement by armed fo...The point about the lack of engagement by armed forces HQs regarding the issue is the most relevant of all. Actually, all such issues stem from the general orientation of our military HRD reasoning to operate from a position of "denying" respect or entitlements to the cadre, whether these be SSC or PC Officers. This mindset often asks itself the question, "Why should so and so enjoy parity/APC/Entitled Benefits? How will the higher echelons derive their authority without their power to deny the lower rungs these things?"corona8https://www.blogger.com/profile/14443791458911191943noreply@blogger.com