tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post4592574133334254662..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: My opinion piece: The political executive must now rise to the occasion on the Pay Commission Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-80856413888219620512016-09-15T08:22:25.236+05:302016-09-15T08:22:25.236+05:30Sir,
My recommendation is that allow me to serve ...Sir,<br /><br />My recommendation is that allow me to serve the nation in any form atleast till the age of 60 as is the case with any other Govt servant. At least all our OR will have living and some respect.<br /><br />regards,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12808499952700167107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-87737155046793101062016-09-05T22:31:31.718+05:302016-09-05T22:31:31.718+05:30Army top senior officers are responsible for lower...Army top senior officers are responsible for lowering the status of Army in terms of pay and promotion.<br />One simple obvious reason is blocking DACP for army doctors!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-83887152589881571682016-08-30T20:35:01.420+05:302016-08-30T20:35:01.420+05:30Dear Major Navdeep.
Aug has come and gone and we ...Dear Major Navdeep.<br /><br />Aug has come and gone and we all in armed forces brethren are still without any of 7th pay commission award and no clarity on what is happening. Can you update us on services demands, their status and how early we can expect salaries as per 7th CPC<br /><br />thank you<br /><br />regardsvidushi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/07933746098543814597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-76801425716613789432016-08-30T20:34:29.126+05:302016-08-30T20:34:29.126+05:30Dear Major Navdeep.
Aug has come and gone and we ...Dear Major Navdeep.<br /><br />Aug has come and gone and we all in armed forces brethren are still without any of 7th pay commission award and no clarity on what is happening. Can you update us on services demands, their status and how early we can expect salaries as per 7th CPC<br /><br />thank you<br /><br />regardsvidushi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/07933746098543814597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-15473980291587152852016-08-28T11:30:48.413+05:302016-08-28T11:30:48.413+05:30Major navdeep,
It is heard that Group A officers ...Major navdeep, <br />It is heard that Group A officers directors who had been getting NFU grade pay of 10000/- have got themselves fixed in 7cpc in index of 10000/- rather than 8700/- grade pay in the name of pay protection. So they are getting double bonanza, first NFU increment and increased grade pay also gets multiplied by 2.57 and then they get fixed in the pay scale index of 10,000/-. Then what is the difference between pay fixation of a director and joint secretary. Even audit people seems to be with them as they themselves are also affected. Can anyone check this? i doubt, as they are the authority themselves.<br /><br />moreover, still not seen any instructions where on grant of NFU, grade pay is to be increased and shown as increased. it was supposed to be added in the basic pay. however group A officers are showing increased grade pay and claiming all the benefits of increased grade pay such as travel in AC taxis, travel by business class in air etc etc. and of course claiming to be senior on the basis of NFU. This is going unchecked...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-91506284692547577802016-08-27T07:30:06.785+05:302016-08-27T07:30:06.785+05:30well said,well said,Prakash Chandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418613940459064714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-72443298492801184182016-08-24T12:41:29.300+05:302016-08-24T12:41:29.300+05:30Dear Maj Navdeep,
As always, an incisive and exce...Dear Maj Navdeep,<br /><br />As always, an incisive and excellent analysis.<br />Hope it is read by the Top Brass in Military and otherwise.<br />In the NDTV show, the Chairperson of the 7th Pay Commission came across like a person who didn't know his facts....Maybe it was just a post-retirement junket for him.<br />But for those who are affected by the Pay Commission Report, his attitude reeked of a superiority complex that springs out of ignorance rather than knowledge, in tandem with the Babus who helped him compile it.<br />Your views on 'Babus in Uniform' are also bang on. Time we cleaned our own stables, before crying hoarse about others.<br />We in the Military also need to understand that we are just another cog in a huge machine.Bharat Chevurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17298010856311767064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-54103327351972581682016-08-24T09:17:39.158+05:302016-08-24T09:17:39.158+05:30respected sir,
firstly all IAS officers are not o...respected sir,<br /><br />firstly all IAS officers are not our enemy, this point to be borne in mind, they are also compatriot. our army is having disciplined forces only to obey, army officers find no difficulty in commanding whereas IAS officers have to act as executives, magistrates and officers carrying out the orders of politicians. They are more vulnerable than our army officers, I spent 20 years in army, maximum work was completed by havildar below rank successfully. once in absence of company commander and senior JCOs, I alongwith MT JCO conducted the major event peacefully and we won prizes even official records were maintained superbly <br /><br />major sahib very good enlightnment<br /><br />thank you sirkarunakaran a ex havildarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-61027019107716875452016-08-24T08:55:54.252+05:302016-08-24T08:55:54.252+05:30Your most important para is the second last one - ...Your most important para is the second last one - Charity begins at home. Am convinced that army is own worst enemy. Despite the IAS not being an organisation (it is just a cadre, with no chief), it manages to behave like a good organisation looking after its primary stakeholders. And despite the army being a solid organisation with a Chief, it manages to behave like a cadre. A shame indeed. At every level, we are out to please the civilian and trouble the fauzi. All for what - personal gain, what else!Alok Asthanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05362507906160748320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-64340156295333496732016-08-23T23:24:59.463+05:302016-08-23T23:24:59.463+05:30There were at least 3 officers who were Full rank ...There were at least 3 officers who were Full rank DGPs but were transferred due to some reason or the other and junior officer was brought in , the moot point is that the strength of the IPS and the IAS individually is not more than 4800-5000 officers. The services have more than 60000 at any given time. The officer of the Army cannot be compared to the IPS. The absolute powers of the Army Commander and Corps Commander is not comparable to the ADGs and DGPs over their organisations. They cannot even transfer a SP without political sanction. So the Army needs to protect its turf ensure that the Brigs, Maj Gens, Lt Gens command higher parity than the officers in the Police (IPS)owing to the limited number of posts and steepo pyramidical structure and whoe\ever makes it to a certain level is a notch higher that the civilian equivalent like a Col = DIG, Brig = IG, MajGen = ADGs, Lt Gen (all)= DGPs and service chiefs = Cabinet Secretary and overall everyone gets paid reasonably along the way from ORs,to JCO to junior Officers. If the government finds that money and pension are a concern TA should be promoted to do internal security duties and strength of the Army should be reduced with infusion of better weapons and technologies. Instead of having 1 Defence Secretary the MoD should have secretary each for the Army, Navy and IAF and these officers should be made to report to the respective service chief for speedy and harmonious decision making. I think over a period of time freebies as in the IAS and IPS shall also cease if the Administrative Reforms commissions see the light of the day. Till then keep fighting and ensure that no Brigadier or Maj Gen or their equivalent rank in Navy and IAF visiting Delhi is transported in a Tata Indica with a yellow number plate with a red star, haven't seen any one from the Police with a flag and star riding a taxi. The Transport company (ASC) should make adequate arrangements, for the officers have earned it! At least this much !Ravi Singh https://www.blogger.com/profile/16618155089734188260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-42357941181337430262016-08-23T23:22:25.785+05:302016-08-23T23:22:25.785+05:30The anomalies of pay for the services viz a viz th...The anomalies of pay for the services viz a viz their civilian counter parts has been discussed in detail in various TV programs. What I fail to understand, being infatuated and obsessed with the (my) Army (services) and being an employee of a Public Sector Bank, is why does the Army hanker all the time with the parity with IAS and IPS at the lower levels. The erosion of status of the officers of the services may be due to the cunning moves by the IAS and the civilian establishment but it is also due to the Army which has failed to keep its own house in order. Pay scales of the fauj and IPS cannot be compared hence there cannot be any parity. The bogey of problems in the field like in J&K etc where the Army is operating along with the civilian police, CPMFs is due to ignorant and stupid politicians who have not sense of strategic culture and do not insist on civilian police being subservient to the Army in such conditions. The Army (services) should have its own pay commission keeping in mind the manpower it deploys.Banking (PSBs) have their own wage revisions every 5 years irrespective of the pay commission, never mind that even then they are poorly paid but just to make a point that a separate pay commission may go into the specifics. As far as DGP of J&K (as rumored) not attending the meeting of the unified Command in Srinagar because he thinks his pay grade is more than that of a Corps Commander heading that command he should be told in clear terms that the meeting being officiated as such is because of the professional competencies rather its short comings of the police force that the Army has to step in. The Army should contain proliferation of posts. Till about 3 years ago GOC of Delhi area used to be a Maj Gen now the post is upgraded to a Lt Gen, what exactly is the functionality is not known to me but in my rookie opinion it was not required, it meant a downgrade of the status. The Army should not fall into the IPS trap of promoting everybody even if that means having redundant positions. In UP for example a few (4-5)years ago the state had about 48 people in the rank of DGP and ADG, special DG was not introduced till then, but what difference did it make on the ground to normal policing - NIL difference.Ravi Singh https://www.blogger.com/profile/16618155089734188260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-38261582403214804972016-08-23T17:54:24.483+05:302016-08-23T17:54:24.483+05:30Major Navdeep,
Your thought analysis is absolutel...Major Navdeep,<br /><br />Your thought analysis is absolutely logical, rational and unbiased for the good of all stake holders- servicemen, ex-servicemen, police forces and civil cadres. <br />Hope, matters get understood by all services and political authorities for the good of the country. <br /><br />Thank you for your mature thoughts and arguments.Maj Shyam S Sharmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-12889823743540561852016-08-23T15:52:34.758+05:302016-08-23T15:52:34.758+05:30Charity begins at home. What about the discriminat...Charity begins at home. What about the discrimination against the nursing officers? The defense establishment had a prominent role to play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-58715649448531709642016-08-22T21:08:15.187+05:302016-08-22T21:08:15.187+05:30Points very aptly conveyed Maj Navdeep sir, i pree...Points very aptly conveyed Maj Navdeep sir, i preempt that if this inconsistency in Pay parity continues many of the middle rung officers will certainly revisit their options to continue in this organization, especially the specialist pool of doctors & technical branch officers. It is a high time that pay parity is reinstatedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-87149859302042506222016-08-21T23:46:21.626+05:302016-08-21T23:46:21.626+05:30DEAR MAJ NAVDEEP SINGH.
AS ALWAYS U HAVE PUTFORTH ...DEAR MAJ NAVDEEP SINGH.<br />AS ALWAYS U HAVE PUTFORTH FAIR,JUST AND FACTUAL PERSPECTIVE ON THE 7TH PAY COMMISSION.I LOVE TO READ UR WRITEUPS AS THEY R ALWAYS FORTHRIGHT AND HAVE NO MALICE TOWARDS ANYONE.<br />HAVE BEEN READING UR BLOGS FOR SEVERAL YEARS BUT NEVER DID POST A COMMENT.<br /><br />WITH REGARDS<br />COL NAVDEEP SINGH LAMBA,RETIRED.NAUDY LAMBAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-68892371098412177952016-08-21T20:48:25.685+05:302016-08-21T20:48:25.685+05:30Dear Navdeep,
Kudos to you. A will written piece i...Dear Navdeep,<br />Kudos to you. A will written piece indeed.Lt Col Ankur (Retd)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-12818084197397613992016-08-19T23:22:58.859+05:302016-08-19T23:22:58.859+05:30An auditor told me there is a racket on disability...An auditor told me there is a racket on disability pensions by senior officers. They apply for disability pension only few months before retirement and the doctors of Armed Forces help them. They don't apply before because this may hamper their promotions. Due to this attitude, the juniors suffered in 7 CPC. Please investigate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-28354443948232236712016-08-19T23:02:23.900+05:302016-08-19T23:02:23.900+05:30Dear Sir,
Well said. I hope the "TOP BRASS&qu...Dear Sir,<br />Well said. I hope the "TOP BRASS" understand the real issues at least now!!!kvghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04022984970152835190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-38887729206811846462016-08-19T22:01:43.935+05:302016-08-19T22:01:43.935+05:30Well said major navdeep.Military top brace first r...Well said major navdeep.Military top brace first respect their own men & women.They are on self destruction mode. No point stopping dacp for doctors.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17773807720079857001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-29810866724353176292016-08-19T13:57:30.174+05:302016-08-19T13:57:30.174+05:30Very well said.....issues need to be seen in the r...Very well said.....issues need to be seen in the right perspective. Both govt and military itself need an urgent house cleaning.<br />RaiIAM THAT IAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01801549335012970776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-92005162125792891972016-08-19T10:20:30.266+05:302016-08-19T10:20:30.266+05:30Dear sir,
The Def Offrs always comparing with IAS/...Dear sir,<br />The Def Offrs always comparing with IAS/IPS for Pay & Allowance during service and even after retirement . Why they do not tried to become IAS/IPS and give up Def Service for good.<br /><br />Def offrs even not preparing their kids for IAS/IPS they believe in tradition of father and son in Def for three generations.<br /><br />How you will get comparison with IAS/IPS more over offrs never talks about JCO's/OR's and EQV ranks . There is no support from PBOR if any retired officer hold the flag of protest for the Def people . All these things damaged by our own military leadership.If you put stong Sepoy till the time you will reach Brigs /Generals will be more powerful but it is vise versa . Offrs fight for himself only . In this situation Govt should not consider any demand of Offrs for NFU , Allowance etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10583856358365262772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-5045281783050982552016-08-18T22:13:07.494+05:302016-08-18T22:13:07.494+05:30Very well said.i hope the powers that be are liste...Very well said.i hope the powers that be are listening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com