tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post4371153763869040642..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: Rank ConfusionNavdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-2005265499873945342015-09-04T15:08:09.203+05:302015-09-04T15:08:09.203+05:30Better the Defence guys limit their objections to ...Better the Defence guys limit their objections to security guards and band walas. The Police, Customs and similar govt agencies have equal right to have their own rank symbols. As far as they do not use the Olive Green (or white and blue as the case may be), you cannot object or degrade them. And mind you, it is not the Grade Pay that decides the rank parity. The civvies may not play golf or have late night parties but they have more responsibilities and authority that you don't need to have.. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-79168911504228019322015-08-02T23:55:32.603+05:302015-08-02T23:55:32.603+05:30Army's AGs and Pers Br and their equivalent br...Army's AGs and Pers Br and their equivalent branches in Navy and IAF should imdt take up a case with the Legislature and Judiciary effectively putting a complete ban on any form of impersonation.<br />Equivalence of Offrs' needs to be widely publicised in order to sensitise the environment and following of correct protocol whilst official/ personal dealings and also the badges on shoulder should not be misleading. For example, An IPS offr holding the rk/appt of DIG should not be seen at par with a Brig rk offr of Army.<br />Lastly, The armed forces need no clearance/ permission from IAS or IPS to correct the prevalent anomalies of uniform and rk badges.<br /><br />Rgds<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-57625133992043224892009-03-22T12:48:00.000+05:302009-03-22T12:48:00.000+05:301. Rank badges worn by IB Chief are that worn by t...1. Rank badges worn by IB Chief are that worn by the Army Chief barring different colours - Golden by Army Chief and silver by IB Chief. However status of Army Chief paywise and otherwise is far higher than that of the IB Chief. <BR/><BR/>2. Within the police department itself, non IPS police officers of the rank of DSP/ACP (Class II/Group B)wear three stars on their shoulders whereas IPS officers (Class I/Group A) wear only one star during probation of two years, 2 stars after two years till less than four years if not holding charge of a police sub division as SDPO/ACP and three stars if heading a police sub division as SDPO/ACP after two years of probation period is over. Despite all this, status of an IPS in JTS regardless of his/her rank badges is superior to those non IPS police officers wearing three stars on their shoulders right from the day they pick up the rank of DSP/ACP.<BR/><BR/>In certain states some non IPS police officers wear Ashoka pillar also worn byIPS officers in service bracket of >4 years and < 9 years and not holding independent charge SP of a district<BR/><BR/>Addl DGP/DGP in HAG+/DGP as head of a CPO or PMF or State Police all wear exactly the same rank badges on their shoulders but with different grade pay, and of course different status and responsibilities. Similarly, an Army Commander/equivalent in the Indian Armed Forces (in Apex scale of Rs 80,000.00 equal to Secretary to the Govt. of India)wears the rank badges worn by an officer of the rank of Lt General / equivalent not appointed in the higher grade of Army Commander/equivalent. <BR/><BR/>At much lower level, Artificers/Mechanicians Class III/II/I in the Navy (in Grade Pay of 3400/-) wear the same rank badge as borne by their next promotional higher rank of Chief Artificer/Mechanician (in grade pay of 4200). There is no point and merit in comparing status according to rank badges worn in any service or department. The right way of determining status of a govt servant is functional / promotional grade pay granted to employee of different departments and services, of course ACP grade pay can be used for certain monetary benefits only and definitely not for drawing rank equations. Now who is senior if functional Grade Pay is same, the answer is either whose total emoluments are more/ho entered the same promotional grade pay earlier.<BR/><BR/>Now, an interesting input about three different ranks/posts in Defence Accounts/Audit Department (DAD). Accounts Officer (Group B gazetted in PB-2) is granted grade pay of 5400, the next higher rank of Senior Accounts Officer (Group B Gazetted in PB-3) also draws grade pay of 5400, the yet next higher rank of Assistant CDA (Group A Gazetted in PB3 group A entry scale) is also given a grade pay of 5400. <BR/><BR/>Hope this information is of some interest and use to some.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-38987244286016119952009-03-08T13:11:00.000+05:302009-03-08T13:11:00.000+05:30i think navdeep and rk are both themselves confuse...i think navdeep and rk are both themselves confused as far as Officers of Customs & Central Excise are concerned. Excise Superintendents are Gazetted Gr-B and wear 3 silver gilt stars (same as ACP/DSP of police)Ashoka emblem is worn by Asstt COmmrs and emblem with one silver gilt star by Dy Commrs (STS). RK has given 1960 circular, and the structure of dept has changed now. there are no Sub Insprs, Dy Supdts in the dept now, and no senior/junior supdts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06725905936530590977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-6267871893276014162009-02-24T23:27:00.000+05:302009-02-24T23:27:00.000+05:30Talking of rank confusion prevailing in the countr...Talking of rank confusion prevailing in the country! Recently I had to go through two different incidents which underline this issue. On MG Road the watchman,a Gurkha of an ATM was wearing a black dress with belt and had two silver stars on his uniform (if i can call that a uniform that is!)in one glance he looked like a Lt of the Armd Corps! when confronted with it he tried to get away with saying thats what his employers had provided him with.When the employers were contacted on phone they turned out to be two retired Army officers. Who should we blame if not ourselves for degrading and undermining the prestige and sanctity of the rank badges? Its a different matter that I hauled them up to the nearby Commissioner's office where they promised to use non-military badges for their employees!<BR/>Second incident<BR/>After attending the Republic Day parade which i attended in summer ceremonial uniform i was waiting for my family to join me in my car one driver of some other civil officer asked me not park the car there and spoke in a very rough tone, forcing me to show him his place. Of course he realised his mistake but it forced me to think as to why he behaved in the way that he did!<BR/>After sometime it struck me that the stripes on air force Uniform are exactly the same as those worn by the drivers of 5 star hotels' chauffeurs!!!!<BR/>We need to decide whether we change or disallow such flagrant misuse of our rank badges. Now the question is who gives in? Knowing the steady and concerted way in which the authority of the Armed Forces has been undermined by the bureaucracy over a period of decades expecting them to react on the issue will be expecting next to impossible.<BR/><BR/>So the question is still unanswered.....who changes?ASTYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15339361266720901739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-72258625933720236002009-02-18T21:37:00.000+05:302009-02-18T21:37:00.000+05:30Dear IPS, CPF officers we have one cadre of Milita...Dear IPS, CPF officers we have one cadre of Military Nursing Services, even they wear ranks like you and me. Are they at par with you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-83324147242516095672009-02-18T21:02:00.000+05:302009-02-18T21:02:00.000+05:30Corrected comment...Dear Sir,Had great fun reading...Corrected comment...<BR/>Dear Sir,<BR/>Had great fun reading the blog. Particularly the last paragraph..."Ticket Checkers of Shatabdi Express wear Three stripes .........". Lets take pride in the fact that we are the ones who laydown the benchmark for others to COPY.....<BR/>Regards<BR/><BR/>February 18, 2009 8:54 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-41210054156046670812009-02-18T20:54:00.000+05:302009-02-18T20:54:00.000+05:30Dear Sir,Had great fun reading the blog. Particula...Dear Sir,<BR/>Had great fun reading the blog. Particularly the last paragraph..."Ticket Checkers of Shatabdi Express wear Three stripes .........". Lets take pride in the fact that we are the who laydown the benchmark for others to COPY.....<BR/>RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-5171278747083796232009-02-18T20:13:00.000+05:302009-02-18T20:13:00.000+05:30Humor in uniform !!!I saw a darban outside a hotel...Humor in uniform !!!<BR/>I saw a darban outside a hotel wearing a long achkan of the type worn by PBG with a P-Cap worn by Brig and above.<BR/>Govinda seen in a movie wearing IMA blazer for his dance number.<BR/>And dear Navdeep, I was remembering you the other day when I saw an Ad film "Join Indian Army" , in that the model is wearing High altitude ribbon upside down. Wonder who is responsible ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-87474533420698698522009-02-18T18:56:00.000+05:302009-02-18T18:56:00.000+05:30Clarification/Confirmation required on revision of...Clarification/Confirmation required on revision of Defence Family Pension as per Annexure I, II and III of Govt. letter dated 11/11/2008. <BR/><BR/> Most of the Defence Family Pensioners (Specially PBOR family pensioners) are not aware that their family pension is based on their husband’s Rank and Group. Therefore they are not in a position to verify the correctness of the pension paid to them. There are many cases, that a widow of a Subedar Group ‘A’ is paid a family pension payable to the widow of a Sepoy. This situation is prevailing in many bank branches.<BR/><BR/> The minimum family pension has been fixed at Rs.3,500/- upto the rank of Havildar and equivalent ranks in Navy & Air Force irrespective of GP and number of years of service etc.<BR/><BR/> Similarly, for other ranks, the Ordinary family pension as per Annexure I and II and III are different.<BR/><BR/> For example, a widow of a Nb.Sub.(Group ‘A’) will get Ordinary family pension (Normal Rate) under modified parity w.e.f. 1.1.96 is Rs.1,560/-.<BR/><BR/> If this Rs.1,560 is revised as per Annexure I it will be -- Rs.3,526<BR/> Whereas if it is revised as per Annexure III, it will be -- Rs.5,070<BR/><BR/> Similarly, a widow of a Hon.Lt. will get Ordinary fmily pension (Normal rate) under modified parity w.e.f. 1.1.96 is Rs.3,150/-.<BR/><BR/> If this Rs.3,150 is revised as per Annexure I, it will be -- Rs.7,119<BR/> Whereas if it is revised as per Annexure III, it will be -- Rs.8,100<BR/><BR/> The Govt. order dt.11/11/2008 says to adopt the table Annexure I or II or III whichever is beneficial to the family pensioner. It has been observed that none of the PDAs have given effect to this beneficial clause while revising the pension of the defence family pensioners. I am submitting herewith a ready reckoner to show the difference in the revised family pension as per Annexure I and Annexure II (For Officer’s families) and Annexure III (For PBOR families).<BR/><BR/>Rank &Existing Pension<BR/> Revised Pension<BR/>As per Annex I Revised Pension<BR/>As per Annex II Difference in<BR/>Revision Remarks<BR/>Lt. 2475 5595 8100 2505 <BR/>Capt 3000 6780 8310 1530 <BR/>Major 3840 8679 8460* 219 Annexure I<BR/>Lt.Col(TS) 4410 9967 8760* 1207 <BR/>Lt.Col(S) 4530 10238 8760* 1478 <BR/>Col 5130 11594 15630 4036 <BR/>Brig 5730 12950 15690 2740 <BR/>Maj Gen 5520 12476 15690 3214 <BR/>Lt.Gen 6720 15188 15690 502 <BR/>DGAFMS 7215 16307 24000 7693 <BR/>VCOAS 7800 17628 24000 6372 <BR/>COAS 9000 20340 27000 6660 <BR/><BR/>* In cases of widows of Majors, Lt. Col (TS) and Lt.Col (S) Annexure I is beneficial. As per the above ready reckoner, it is evident that the Annexure II is beneficial to all family pensioners except the widows of Majors, Lt.Cols(TS) and Lt.Cols(S).<BR/><BR/> The revision of family pension in respect of PBOR Family pensioners is based on their Rank and Group. The PDAs are finding it difficult to find out the Rank and Group of the deceased PBOR. Also their families are not in a position to show the relevant personal records to prove Rank and Group as a result, most of the PBOR family pensioners are paid the minimum family pension of Rs.1,275. We have come across many widows of Subedars, Subedar Majors, Hon. Lts. are drawing minimum family pension of Rs.1,275. Neither the widow is aware of her correct pension, nor the Bank branch is bothered about payment of correct pension to the widows.<BR/><BR/>Now let us see the family pensions of PBORs.<BR/><BR/>Rank,Group Existing Pension Revised Pen Anne I Revised Pen III Difference <BR/>Sepoy 1275 3500 3500 Nil <BR/>Naik 1275 3500 3500 Nil <BR/>Havildar 1275 3500 3500 Nil <BR/>Nb.Sub.GP’A’ 1560 3526 5070 1544 <BR/>Nb.Sub.Gp’B’ 1440 3500 4650 1150 <BR/>Nb.Sub.Gp’C’ 1395 3500 4650 1150 <BR/>--D to H Gp 1320 3500 4650 1150 <BR/>E of DSC 1320 3500 4650 1150 <BR/>Sub GP’A’ 1851 4185 5190 1005 <BR/>---- GP’B’ 1731 3914 4770 856 <BR/>---- GP’C’ 1686 3811 4770 959 <BR/>---- D,E,F 1686 3811 4770 959 <BR/>---- G,H 1619 3643 4770 1127 <BR/>Sub.Maj.Gp’A’ 2175 4917 5250 333 <BR/>------GP ‘B’ 2025 4578 4830 252 <BR/>------GP ‘C’ 2025 4578 4830 252 <BR/>------GP ‘D’ 2025 4578 4830 252 <BR/>GP‘GH&EDSC 1980 4475 4830 252 <BR/>Hon.Lt. 3150 7119 8100 981 <BR/>Hon.Capt 3255 7357 8310 953 <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Note: Pre 1973 Groups –A,. B to H<BR/> Post 1973 - A,B to E<BR/> Post 10/10/06 - X, Y to Z<BR/> Post 01.01.06 - X & Y only.<BR/><BR/>The above analysis is made based on the Govt. order No.17(4)/2008(1)/D/(Pen/Policy) dated 11/11/2008. Annexure I, II & III and 11/12/2008 Annexure II. If any order is released subsequently on the subject, the clarification sought will differ. If the information given is found correct & helpful to the defence family pensioner, then the entire text may be forwarded to all Bank head offices for guidance in the right spirit.<BR/>By Muthukrishnan (Ex.Sgt.)<BR/>Blog:indianexserviceman.blogspot.com<BR/>Email:cm_krish@yahoo.co.inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-55991562160748576742009-02-18T15:38:00.000+05:302009-02-18T15:38:00.000+05:30dear sir, Their is lot of confusion regarding Temp...dear sir, <BR/>Their is lot of confusion regarding Temp duty allce & mode of claim,as the new policy seems to deprive even of the older rates due to submission of actual bills,will u be able to provide some info on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-79772626837894883732009-02-18T08:16:00.000+05:302009-02-18T08:16:00.000+05:30There is a book-let on protocal published by gove...There is a book-let on protocal published by goverment of India laying down as to who stands where. I doubt whether the 6pc supercede this. Accordingly the position of a DIG of Police is Lt Col/Col depending to their length of service. In fact I had effectively used it when a bunch of DIGs clustered in the saluting base with the Sub Area Commander during the Reublic Day Parade practice at Bhopal way back during 1987 They had no choice but to accept and get down from the salutting base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-63915582689569059222009-02-18T06:53:00.000+05:302009-02-18T06:53:00.000+05:30Hey Anony at 11.59If you read my post carefully, y...Hey Anony at 11.59<BR/><BR/>If you read my post carefully, you would 'discover' that I have made no mention whatsoever of changing rank badges or anything like that. <BR/><BR/>I have no 'idea' to the effect 'sirjee' :-)Navdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-82792270324025521012009-02-17T23:59:00.000+05:302009-02-17T23:59:00.000+05:30wELL WRITTEN NAVDEEP!!!The three servces should ge...wELL WRITTEN NAVDEEP!!!<BR/>The three servces should get their act together, choose a same uniform address each other with the same ranks and be identified with the same batches. This job of designing the new rank batches can be given to the National Institute of Fashion .... and they will suggest the new patented rank designs for the armed forces...and then we can look like those models on the fashion ramp with our new ranks.....VOW!!! what an idea sirjeee!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-20978117414122605002009-02-17T23:24:00.000+05:302009-02-17T23:24:00.000+05:30Anonymous @ February 17, 2009 10:07 PMAbstract ide...Anonymous @ February 17, 2009 10:07 PM<BR/><BR/>Abstract idealism ... Is that an escape route ? It is such things that we like to believe in thats responsible for all our miseries ! Wake up and smell the salts. We have to take the bull by the horns. Our 'knowing' has nothing to do with it. Their 'knowing' is what's required !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-26679015152590881542009-02-17T22:07:00.000+05:302009-02-17T22:07:00.000+05:30a nicely written and compared with other services ...a nicely written and compared with other services and we should not get into comparison but should know where we stand and should not give weightage to other services based on stars on their shoulders but what we know is correct. we should know that we have been given rank by the supreme commander and we are addressed by oyr ranks whereas they are addressed as mr/ sriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-68973939834956244482009-02-17T21:46:00.000+05:302009-02-17T21:46:00.000+05:30@MV....after 6th cpc the DIG SAHEB IS EQUAL TO BRI...@MV....<BR/><BR/>after 6th cpc the DIG SAHEB IS EQUAL TO BRIG SAHEB...both have GP of 8900..so COL is junior to him...<BR/><BR/>WE MUST THANX 6TH CPC FOR IT..<BR/><BR/>ALL OTHER LOGICS GIVEN BY GOVT/ARMY FAIL IN A MIX ORGANISATION SO PL ACCEPT IT..U WILL BE MORE HAPPY..<BR/><BR/>OR ELSE TELL HIM POINT BLANK AND SHOW HIM WOP ...<BR/><BR/>BY THE WAY LET ME CORRECT YOU TILL 5TH CPC....<BR/><BR/>FULL COL WAS SENIOR TO DIG ..SO UR POINT THAT DIG IS JUNIOR TO BRIG AND SENIOR TO COL IS INCORRECT..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-86877586912542756212009-02-17T21:43:00.000+05:302009-02-17T21:43:00.000+05:30@ MV said--MV you can just refuse the Deputation. ...@ MV said--<BR/>MV you can just refuse the Deputation. Nothing happens. They will just attach you to the nearest dept. where you are kept under a senior Service officer till you revert to the Army. Navdeep can send you the letter to be reffered that a DIG is below a Col and since the Army has not superseded that letter you can always quote that as the basis for reversion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-46544255243596203962009-02-17T21:07:00.000+05:302009-02-17T21:07:00.000+05:30This is how true.I am in a deputation deptt, where...This is how true.I am in a deputation deptt, wherein a DIG of IPS, who wears ranks of a Brig, thinks himself of an equivalent rank and treats us accordingly, whereas the fact is that he is just above COL but below a Brig of ARMY.......??????? But who will tell him that ??????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-78130128999637002772009-02-17T20:21:00.000+05:302009-02-17T20:21:00.000+05:30I feel we should set the house right prior we look...I feel we should set the house right prior we look outward. I mean parity should be established amongst three services. Following anomalies / differences within three services should be made at par circumventing personal agenda of senior lot:-<BR/><BR/>a) Select list year to full colonel (Army 18 years / Navy 20 Years /IAF ??)<BR/><BR/>b) Full colonel to Brigadier<BR/>(Army - selection, Navy - TS after 5 years / IAF ??)<BR/><BR/>c) Erstwhile Lt. Col. (TS) to COL (TS) {Army & IAF implemented, Navy - Not agreed}<BR/><BR/>Note: Army being the big brother, rest two should synchronize with Army. However, the COMMODORE LOBBY is sure to oppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-85536416625520320452009-02-17T18:58:00.000+05:302009-02-17T18:58:00.000+05:30Anonymous @ February 17, 2009 5:49 PMWe fauji's ar...Anonymous @ February 17, 2009 5:49 PM<BR/><BR/>We fauji's are great! Want a Commission for even making changes to uniform !<BR/><BR/>Lets get over this 'get permission' from babus attitude !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-29571913789241565452009-02-17T17:49:00.000+05:302009-02-17T17:49:00.000+05:30Nicely written. I think the only way to sort out t...Nicely written. I think the only way to sort out this problem is to have a commission on this too. This one time effort is much needed to iron out things once for all. After which necessary law can be passed to ensure that the same is not misused by security guards and band masters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-43991884590954667922009-02-17T15:13:00.000+05:302009-02-17T15:13:00.000+05:30We are not required to resort to Gandhigiri and ...We are not required to resort to <BR/>Gandhigiri and meet at a common playground for this. We are the Indian Armed Forces under our Supreme Commander. We decide one pattern of uniform and badges of ranks by ourselves to suit us and patent it. Do we take the permission of Baboos and politicians for every changes we make on your uniforms ? Of cource not. Please do not practice " Aao Behl Mujche Maar" Anyone copying anything giving even a distant resemblance to our uniforms and badges of ranks is an absolute "IMPERSONATION". That is what the law says. Why do we need the magnanimity of the Bada Baboos to get it through ? Such are the little steps we should take to reclaim our lost "IZZAT". I can assure that if we resort to such a change it will completely end the practice of comparrison or equating our Brigadier with DIG because no one other than the "Salvation Army" has any Brigadier and Defence Forces does not have a DIG. It will put them where it should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-30762680772666106982009-02-17T10:43:00.000+05:302009-02-17T10:43:00.000+05:30ok ok but what about the band masters in north ind...ok ok but what about the band masters in north indian weddings.<BR/>not to talk of the umpteen security staff in hotels and elsewhere.<BR/>the only solution is for all the concerned to meet at a common playing ground and sort out the same.<BR/>yes! but who will bell the cat.In this case the Tigerrr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-57080060892350590762009-02-17T10:37:00.000+05:302009-02-17T10:37:00.000+05:30BADGES OF RANK :“In supersession of theexisting or...BADGES OF RANK :<BR/>“In supersession of the<BR/>existing orders in regard to the<BR/>wearing of badges of rank by<BR/>the uniformed Central Excise Staff, the Board has ordered<BR/>that they shall, hereafter, wear<BR/>badges of rank as given in the appended Annexure.”<BR/>ANNEXURE<BR/>Annexure to letter No.<BR/>29(5)60-Ad.IV-A, dated the<BR/>19th Dec., 1960<BR/>Badges of rank to be worn on<BR/>the shoulders by the<BR/>Uniformed Central Excise Staff<BR/><BR/>Sub-Inspectors<BR/>: Stripe + one brass star.<BR/>Inspectors<BR/>: Stripe + 2 brass stars.<BR/>Deputy Supdt. (E)<BR/>: Stripe + 3 brass stars.<BR/>Supdt. (E) Class II First 5 years : One Silver Gilt star.<BR/>Supdt. (E) Class II After 5 years : Two Silver Gilt stars.<BR/>Supdt. (E) Class I<BR/>: Three Silver Gilt stars.<BR/>Asstt. Collectors First 5 years<BR/>: Silver Gilt Ashoka Lion.<BR/>Asstt. Collectors After 5 years<BR/>: Silver Gilt Ashoka Lion +one star.<BR/><BR/>M.F. (D.R.) F.No. 29(5)60-Ad. lV-A, dated 19.12.1960<BR/><BR/>This is what it used to be for the central excise dept but it seems they have conveniently got rid of the cloth stripe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com