tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post324262284388777008..comments2024-02-08T22:01:40.101+05:30Comments on Indian Military : Service Benefits and Issues: IAS Officers to get the payscale of Major General in 14 years of serviceNavdeep / Maj Navdeep Singhhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11481215977936848477noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-25857061416281557602017-06-15T15:50:25.270+05:302017-06-15T15:50:25.270+05:30I am an aspirant of the civil services, it saddens...I am an aspirant of the civil services, it saddens me to see fellow aspirants/commentators/or even officers to put such demeaning words to our own brethren be it IAS to Ranked officers or the other way round. I wont talk at lengths to justify my opinion but if at all my two cents matter consider these:<br />1. I had put my heart & soul in getting selected successfully for the OTA as a woman candidate from the SSB Allahbad on the 3rd of July'11. Which to this day remains the most cherished day of my life (I wouldnt even care to remember my birthday). Though i was slashed due to the merit list short of 4 seats to accommodate a merit listed candidate.<br />2. My heart still sinks to nadir for a second when i see/read about armed forces and how it is being perceived by civilians. For those who thinks the ones who couldnt study at school and took the easy way about NDA etc, seriously guys?!! I hope you be thankful beyond your shamelessness to realize you could study /enjoy with your girls/boys, enjoy marital bliss do everything possible and then sit to study whatever was taught in school SAFELY just because your "those" schoolmates watch over the borders ..all alone, vulnerable, and yet completely dedicated to your safely<br />Last but not the least, we are all CITIZENS OF THE BHARAT MAA , RESPECT OUR BRETHREN NO MATTER WHAT CLASS/ SERVICES/POSITION they come from.<br />JAI HIND!!!azure trailshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03658481723414789913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-61247993504533817852015-08-03T01:27:16.062+05:302015-08-03T01:27:16.062+05:30Both of our armed forces and civil servants are do...Both of our armed forces and civil servants are doing great job.Their is no reason to fight for salary.<br /> Chaman mein. ikhtilat-e- rangoboo se baat banti hai....<br />hum hi hum hain to kya hum hain tum hi tum ho to kya tum ho.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215972115548595381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-40471465362741948962015-06-22T23:19:29.581+05:302015-06-22T23:19:29.581+05:30Mr.Anonymous,you know courage is one thing every b...Mr.Anonymous,you know courage is one thing every body may not have,especially when you could not disclose your name.I suppose you do not have it.Therefore,your attack on the issue gone out of track & instead of 14yrs. promotion for IAS in contradiction with Lt. Col.'s 26yrs promotion & pay package which was the argument forgotten.And you can not compare army with civilian part because it needs courage which you simply lagging.<br />Regards.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15375798938189892906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-79972392434712582332015-06-22T16:40:20.206+05:302015-06-22T16:40:20.206+05:30Anonymous,
You are either a dropout at your life ...Anonymous,<br /><br />You are either a dropout at your life somewhere or you could not join Armed Force rather rejected piece. I have really seen the Officer like quality only in Defence Officers. May be one or two IAS or IPS may have to that level. If you still feel Armed Forces get more benefits, pl send your ward to join this prestigious job. At least you will be proud then. In civil Govt job, An LDC will retire as section officer without even knowing A,B,C,d.. <br /><br /> kumarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-1314479067028994102015-06-17T23:04:53.256+05:302015-06-17T23:04:53.256+05:30My comment is not specific to any one personally ....My comment is not specific to any one personally . <br />I just want to add that nobody is honest enough on their own field,let it be a civil service officer or defence service officer. But yes something has encouraged me to write a comment over here and that too for those who are boasting of their honesty and nationalism. <br /><br />If you guys are so loyal and honest to your job and nation then why don't you have a guts to allow the media to come inside and be an active part like it is in civil organisation . why any of the officer is not being caught for their abuse of power in his active service (got caught after his retirement), why you hide every thing from the public in the name of security .<br />Only thing is that civil officers are much more exposed to their abuse of power while in contrary, defence officers are hardly exposed.<br /><br />Regards :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-45508558827281822202015-02-11T21:30:02.045+05:302015-02-11T21:30:02.045+05:30Comparing minimum required qualification don't...Comparing minimum required qualification don't make any sence , look at the examination conducted to entry for MBBS,ENGINEERING in most prestigious institute of country like AIMS,IIT, etc minimum required qualification in these exams is 10+2 in science similarly entry to NDA is the same because required age to NDA is (16 1/2 - 19 years) after that they have to undergo 4 years harsh training session in which they also complete their graduation in desired subjects.So if an IAS aspirant even don't know selection procedures in the country only tri services elite academy,disrespecting country own forces, then i don't think that these kind of guys are eligible for this prestigious job.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18342547132793199562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-68326198894019995872015-02-09T16:24:17.851+05:302015-02-09T16:24:17.851+05:30Sorry but all defence officers are at least gradua...Sorry but all defence officers are at least graduates.for nda cadets the graduation is done in nda.you cannot become an officer until you are a graduate vineshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-53163627230030074572015-02-09T16:21:43.212+05:302015-02-09T16:21:43.212+05:30Correction....nda cadets are not given stipend.sti...Correction....nda cadets are not given stipend.stipend is given in ima,afa and ina.vineshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-67555359099387332932015-02-09T15:59:39.164+05:302015-02-09T15:59:39.164+05:30Please improve your english before commenting on s...Please improve your english before commenting on someone.you cant even imagine what they go through to save your ass.you are no one to comment in this manner on our nations great army and its brave soldiers Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-46339487106828127962014-09-15T23:22:18.586+05:302014-09-15T23:22:18.586+05:30Just gr8. After reading all the points i was think...Just gr8. After reading all the points i was thinking that wat can be the solution/situation close to solution. One permanent solution is there(though hypothetical), let us interchange between efficient IAS and Defence forces. In next six months, employ all IAS/IPS/IFS officers to interchange with Army/AirFoce/Navy Offrs, and similairly goes for the staff of various departments with the jawaans. Six months necessary training to be provided for both of them for their anticipated new and challenging role. I think results will show that who can perform better. Smart,efficient, honest, physically fit, more educated, extremely hard working Civil Officers or low qualified, cheap liquor drunkards, golfers and hardly working Defence persons???????<br />Has any body thought on few things -<br />1. Why there is no reservations (sc/st/obc) in Defence Force?<br />2. Why not even a single family person of any Politician has ever joined Active defence force?<br />3. Why our enemy country, though being supported by worlds most powerful country, has not been able to destroy our country?<br /><br />I am sure answer to these questions will open the minds of Smart,efficient, honest, physically fit, more educated, extremely hard working Civil Officers??????Good Morning Sir Aanksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-45043220829435745902013-09-14T16:37:46.396+05:302013-09-14T16:37:46.396+05:30There are more issues for Defense personnel who re...There are more issues for Defense personnel who retired as commissioned officers, other ranks and jawans. Many district level Ex-Defense Employees employment schemes are there, but often the disciplined employees have to work between corrupt private system companies as security in-charge and in real-estate business. Often the private sector employs ex-defense personnel just to create a sense of discipline and truthfulness to the people and market, which they serve.<br /><br />I fail to understand with such leadership qualities and many with technical qualifications and experience, why don't they come forward to start self-driven private sector companies themselves like employing 80% ex-defense personnel (which should be given edge over other bids in government tenders):<br />1. Road making companies.<br />2. Construction of bridges.<br />3. Railway Civil Construction.<br />4. Power Plant at Coal pits.<br />5. Courier Companies.<br />6. National Transport Companies.<br />7. National University for Security Personnel.<br />8. District level- Integrated Dairy Farms<br /><br />etc etc....<br /><br />Only Hope remains with you, for give a kick-start to the economy of the country again. You served the country as jawans and now serve the country well as civilians. Your efforts would be appreciated.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15566009313276438719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-34272037842570254972013-08-09T23:48:31.751+05:302013-08-09T23:48:31.751+05:30Congrats to myself, to encounter with such a good ...Congrats to myself, to encounter with such a good blog site. <br /><br />I have 1 submission that, all citizens of the country are taxed for the betterment of everyone, why cannot we afford to tax Re 1 more, to provide bullet-proof vests to all army and para-military jawans and officers. Will the IAS sanction this?<br /><br />I have interacted and discussed various issues of developments with young IAS officers, they are intelligent to grab ideas, but lack the guts to implement them, due to their bureaucratic character of handling things. And as they grow with their experience they become dumb as they could not get any experience to do great things, and if they are really pro-active and had the stuff in them to become future trend-setters, the politicians make them Durga Shakti like case. So the fact remains, may be 10% of the IAS final grow up to the requirement of the country and its people.<br />This is not the case with the Army and defense personnel.... to be contd.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15566009313276438719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-9050416047088746382013-07-29T15:30:53.602+05:302013-07-29T15:30:53.602+05:30i am verry sorry to see the comparision going on b...i am verry sorry to see the comparision going on betwen ias and army officers.we are very proud for our indian army they protects our country from territorial enemies and mantains the security of the country. I salute all those army personnels who died for the sake of country they give us really motivation.But as well as an ias officer has great importance in running the country sucessfully. They work for the betterment of people and their decision directly changes the life of lakhs of people.A country can prosper only if its people will prosper and which really depends on an ias officer.An army personnel cannot contribute directly for the poor people who hardly eats two meals a day but an ias officer can.And an ias officer cannot contribute directly in mantaining security of the country while the army personnel does.And if you consider risk there is great risk for an ias officers also there will be many enemy mainly corrupt polticians if you work the betterment of the country.And only the army personnels working near border and paramilitary operations have life risks.Forget about corruption if want to serve your country and can dedicate everything for the sake of country then becoming an ias officer you can change life of millions people or you can join army and can die for the sake of country.Both contributes greatly in their field and there should not be any comparision betweeen them.Not be fool if you have guts and can dedicate everything for the sake of well beings of people and country then both the fields are heaven for you.so brothers and sisters bring the motivation and will power in you and contribute something for your country.<br />THANK YOU nisith mohantynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-43214988930205122222013-02-12T22:07:43.911+05:302013-02-12T22:07:43.911+05:30and what do these qualified people do ultiimately?...and what do these qualified people do ultiimately? mint heaps of unaccounted money, touch politicians feet, collect money for politicians, sleep over at the time of emergencies n call less qualified armed forces, enjoy enumorous n unaccouted privileges using influence of position entrusted by virtue of govt chair.....list is long n long never ending...however point is not to argue who is better or not, but why the one who is laying down his life for the nation n not even remembered the very mrxt day is being ignored on the cost of those who sit in ac rooms n take so called policy decisions (which most of the times seems to be the politically motivated only) is't it ironical????? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-44253217405093237222012-12-27T20:55:18.859+05:302012-12-27T20:55:18.859+05:30Hmm..the other logical conclusion would be that mo...Hmm..the other logical conclusion would be that more qualified people want to join the ias than the armyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-72869593310010116682012-07-30T08:23:52.539+05:302012-07-30T08:23:52.539+05:30shame on you all..fighting among ourseleves wont s...shame on you all..fighting among ourseleves wont solve the issues we are facing..in the end all you above people proved that money is everything you work for..well if you were looking for a fat pay package then why dont you join some private company..please do mind your own business.. :) <br />regards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-65419948799709514862012-01-28T19:33:10.679+05:302012-01-28T19:33:10.679+05:30why para miliary forces are being ignored , who ...why para miliary forces are being ignored , who r fighting day n nght wid naxals and other terrorist organisations ,i think they should be given due weightage at par with both ias n army officer in terms of pay scale , facilities n other previleges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-91651679272033989322012-01-28T15:26:46.568+05:302012-01-28T15:26:46.568+05:30if any is aware about new rule of IAS exam for Arm...if any is aware about new rule of IAS exam for Army officer pl post it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-21781268612372193172012-01-22T14:26:10.982+05:302012-01-22T14:26:10.982+05:30Dr Pradeep Dubal...
Congrats you chose correct, Wi...Dr Pradeep Dubal...<br />Congrats you chose correct, Wisdome prevails.Ravalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-80435939568481821062012-01-18T00:40:56.608+05:302012-01-18T00:40:56.608+05:30Actually I have just completed my MBBS,& was c...Actually I have just completed my MBBS,& was confused about what to do next...? Whether to join Army, or to prepare for civil services... After reading all the above, I think I will go for army...<br />-Dr. Pradeep DubalDr. Pradeep Dubalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-32746641470515659312011-12-31T00:40:27.985+05:302011-12-31T00:40:27.985+05:30hi, this is pradeep,
as i read all the comments ...hi, this is pradeep,<br /> as i read all the comments about both ias and army officers....<br /> but if we all think deeply one thing that if all the people go towards the aramdayak services..., then who will defend the country from the terriorist , against the naxal powers and many others terrorist activities....our great indian army always defend our country from all big terrorist activities and plans to spoil and destroy our country. our army personnels always keep an watch on the borders,wake all the night for the security of country........ and one of the reality and the history of indian army soldiers is that they always ready to sacrifice their life for the sake and proud of her country....<br /> if everyone join the civil services and private sectors .....then who will we responsible for the security of our country<br />........army officers as a leaders leads thousands of soldiers in every suitation and have an control on everyone... but ias officers sitting in the office ....do complete his/her work and go back to home and have a long sleep in the night without any tension about her life and country.<br /> but what about the life of the officers?<br />if they all go on the night sleep or whole army only for the one day go on the strike, then what happen...?<br />then india will be safe?....our crores of population will be able to go on deep sleep....<br /> so everyone it is very easy to give comments and compare anyone loooking on the pay scale , allowance and benefits given to them...... what firstly we should loook the sacrifice ....<br />do not forgot the sacrifices of our defence personels in the indo-china, indo-pak, and many more other wars.....only for us..<br />and the question about the quilification of army officers... as i tell every one that it is easy to take the degree , but use the quilification with the skills,ruling others,powerful leader and courage which give the feeling of giving sacrifice.....is important..<br />so at last army officers cannot be compare in any respect to any one in any field... a perfect gentlemen men<br />WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF OUR INDIAN ARMY AND SHOULD GIVE RESPECT TO IT.<br /> **************PRADEEP SINGHpradeep singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-60216175824820928312011-12-22T12:19:34.352+05:302011-12-22T12:19:34.352+05:30mr anonymous
1 we commit our "life" to ...mr anonymous<br /><br />1 we commit our "life" to the nation and give it when needed...and no questions asked, an ias/ifs commits his "grey cells" to the nation and give it when needed...and no questions asked<br />...<br />what a stark difference...!!!<br />and yes you should have a higher pay...<br /><br />2 i am an ex-nda, and have 300 coursemates.....i have known them for 3 years and can vouch that 280 joined for the pride, honour of services n yes 20 for other reasons.....how many of your coursemates joined for the pride and honour and not for the power money..???<br /><br />3 you mentioned about the cheap liquor we enjoy, i really wonder if you dont know how many of your officers ration and the jonny walker come from our csd,<br />and please dont deny.....<br />i am also sure you must be knowing how our golf course look.....isint it..???<br /><br />4 and even with 1 yr of service i can pen my name on this blog and not be " mr anonymous "deepak sehgalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-9944583838217691302011-11-16T13:29:35.569+05:302011-11-16T13:29:35.569+05:306th CPCR and subsequent steps reduced the time sca...6th CPCR and subsequent steps reduced the time scale service of capt,maj,lt col and even of selection grade full colonels whereas there is no reduction in the time scale service of Col (TS). Why? Think there is no mybaap for the same and only superseeded offrs are affected in this case for whom it appears that seniors not bothering for the same. This is totaly for debarring the ACC Entry even from becoming Col (TS) at 26 yrs of service because they generally gets commission between 29 to 31 yrs of ORs service and retire at the age of 54, just one or two yr prior of completing 26 yrs of service .Needs to be analyised. No further comments please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-22882255025753186282011-07-16T11:47:14.231+05:302011-07-16T11:47:14.231+05:30JADAUN said....
Respected friends, today we are gr...JADAUN said....<br />Respected friends, today we are growing strength by strength, but it is really very sad that somebody is speaking about 'golf' but not about the snow bitten bodies of armymen, 'CSD LIQUOR' but not about the 'SIACHEN GLACIER protected by armymen','quality of life in army' but not about the brave widows n the children of armymen, it is very said Mr. Anonimous and shameful too that we dont know the cost of our freedom that is being paid by this armyman by giving his life. Please dont get confuse i m not an armyman but i m a civilian who has utter regard for these untold heroes.JADAUNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1503293844377013031.post-59364589591419897562011-05-22T22:51:16.309+05:302011-05-22T22:51:16.309+05:30It is amusing to note the lack of awareness and in...It is amusing to note the lack of awareness and independent thinking in the comments to this post.<br />First off, I am not a big fan of the pay scale revision. Nobody can say that it is not biased towards the IAS, and for no good reason too.<br />However, I find issue with the stereotypical description of pot-bellied babus and incompetent administrators. I certainly fall in the same category, being a deeply entrenched babu now serving at the Centre! That apart, I can attest to the fact that not all officers are equally incompetent. I have worked with and know about several high calibre officers who are ready to do almost anything for the country.<br />I find issue with the allegation that civilians who are not in the army simply chickened out. This is ridiculous considering that during selection, the army does not judge the 'poultry farm aptitude' of young aspirants. I personally know numerous IAS officers who could give the best cadets a run for their money when it comes to being 'ballsy'.<br />Another childish observation was about the way we babus speak. I am shocked to note the stupidity of that comment, considering the fact that almost all secretary level babus, and others who get time on the airwaves, speak excellently, and no self respecting critic can claim them to be linguistically incompetent.<br />Finally, it is indeed a fact that administration is not a cakewalk. It is as strenuous as managing the borders. So, loose talk about swapping roles deserves to be lambasted.<br />I agree that the army has many more upright officers than the IAS. BUt, and this fact is undeniable, joining the defence forces is not the ultimate test of one's patriotism. Any citizen, in whatever walk of life, can any day choose to be more or less patriotic than any jawan manning our borders.<br />JAI HIND.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com